Us vs. Them, a perspective

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Mule

Try another approach, show me a group they get along with?

Don't deflect.

Just answer the question.

Can we believe what they say?

Is the poll valid or not?

[Seric]

Originally Posted by Mule

Maybe you can show me somebody who they get along with.

From what we know, anyone who isn't Muslim is scum. We either convert or die. But do all Muslims believe that? Hell if they truly do, I have plenty of guns and ammo.

[DanL911sc]

You know, Yoda was on to something: fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. We've got the hate, and a fair bit of anger I'd wager, so what is it you guys are afraid of?

[nostatic]

fear and a little bit of knowledge (or assumed knowledge) is a dangerous thing...

I'm glad you guys are up on your cultural anthropology and sociology so you can distill this down and make the sweeping generalizations. And rationalizing the internment camps as being "for their own safety" is a nice touch

[Mule]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Don't deflect.

Just answer the question.

Can we believe what they say?

Is the poll valid or not?

I don't b!tch up. No we can't believe them 'cause their religion tells them lying is cool, as long as you're lying to an infidel.

[Mo_Gearhead]

QUOTE: "And what can an Average American do to help erase the Muslim population from the U.S.?"
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Well, out here, we gather at night, put on white sheets and pointy white hats and masks. We go ridin' out ...whooping and hollerin' on horseback and stick wooden Allah's in their yards. Once we set them on fire, the Muslims rush out to see WTF is happening and we machine gun ALL of them (children included).

Most have moved on.

North ...I assume?

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead

QUOTE: "And what can an Average American do to help erase the Muslim population from the U.S.?"
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Well, out here, we gather at night, put on white sheets and pointy white hats and masks. We go ridin' out ...whooping and hollerin' on horseback and stick wooden Allah's in their yards. Once we set them on fire, the Muslims rush out to see WTF is happening and we machine gun ALL of them (children included).

Most have moved on.

North ...I assume?

Dam where will I get my Oriental Rugs from then?

[Mo_Gearhead]

Quote: "Dam where will I get my Oriental Rugs from then?"
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China.

[Lil Black Car]

It is pretty hard to tell a crazy fundamentalist muslim from a sane one. Kinda like its pretty hard to tell the sane preacher man whippin up a frenzy on Sunday morning from the one that puts on the rubber suit and tries to get his rocks off. But American is made up of people from all dfferent backgrounds and I think that it has made us better.
However, regarding the Muslims in America, I think that they need to assimilate into our society or get the f#$k out, know what I mean. Let 'em come on over, but the minute they start this crazy stuff ship them back home to the sandbox. The liberals (sorry if I offend by using the word) need to be more concerned about upholding traditional American values then they are about hurting Haji's feelings. Assimilate or get out.

Tabs, your oriental rugs are coming from Persia (Iran) or Pakistan and Turkey. The market is alive and well in Germany. I want to by car parts andthe wife wants rugs and old french furniture!!!

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead

QUOTE: "And what can an Average American do to help erase the Muslim population from the U.S.?"
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Well, out here, we gather at night, put on white sheets and pointy white hats and masks. We go ridin' out ...whooping and hollerin' on horseback and stick wooden Allah's in their yards. Once we set them on fire, the Muslims rush out to see WTF is happening and we machine gun ALL of them (children included).

Most have moved on.

North ...I assume?

So tell me, how many have you killed now? If you can segregate men, women and children, that would be great. Thanks!

[Mule]

So Shaun, you are so quick to criticize what others say. What's your plan, a chorus of cum ba ya?

[DanL911sc]

Originally Posted by Mule

Try another approach, show me a group they get along with?

I didn't even have to look for this one, it just showed up on my radar. Take a look at this. Looks like "they" get along with everyone just fine, but in this case the Hyde Park Baptist Church does not get along with them.

Is that what you were asking about?

[Tobra]

So when the Christians don't get along with the Muslims in a non-Muslim nation, they can't pray together. It happens in a Muslim country, and they are collecting Christian heads on sharp sticks. I have no doubt you have a point, but I suspect Mule was referring to the fact that Muslims tend to kill people they disagree with, not kindly ask them to pray somewhere else

Originally Posted by Seric

My point was that Muslim Terroirsts are a very small percentage of the people who practice the religion. It's just sad that such a small percentage of bad apples ruins the whole tree. I guess that happens in all walks of life.

His point is that a high percentage, just shy of 100% of terrorist acts worldwide are committed by Muslims. If the good apples even said, "Gee, that is too bad," rather than, "Really you have been asking for it and deserve it" when they initially try and fail, then eventually bring the WTC down killing thousands, I might buy the bad apples ruining the tree analogy. As it is, you have to wonder about the tree.

Originally Posted by Superman

Brilliant spin, Chris.

Does it make your food taste bad, being so bitter?

Typical lib response to a legit question, rather than respond throwing mud. Did you miss the few and far between attacks on Muslims following 9/11? It happened, not much, but it did, even with all the PC BS you and your ilk throw around like a monkey slinging scat. Think about how xenophobic and redneck the entire country was 65 years ago, the Japanese were easier to pick out than an Arab too.

Originally Posted by Superman

Educate Seric and myself. Who published this report that concludes the majority of American Muslims are terrorists? Thank you, in advance.

You need work on putting words in people's mouths. Greater than 50% are sympathetic to the terrorists. They might not set off a car bomb, but they sure as heck are not calling the FBI when they see their buddy loading nails, fertilizer and diesel into 55 gallon drums in the back of his Ice Cream Truck.

I have been scrolling through, did I miss your list of all the atrocities and terrorist acts done in the name of Jesus Christ?

[Mo_Gearhead]

Quote: "So tell me, how many have you killed now? If you can segregate men, women and children, that would be great. Thanks!"
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Gosh, didn't mean to imply that I was a participant!

Disclaimer: I just supply the ammunition, gasoline, horses and laundry service (those S.O.Bs. DO get those sheets dirty!)

Oh I submitted your suggestion ...but was told by the Grand Poobah that sorting takes too much time!

[Mule]

Originally Posted by DanL911sc

I didn't even have to look for this one, it just showed up on my radar. Take a look at this. Looks like "they" get along with everyone just fine, but in this case the Hyde Park Baptist Church does not get along with them.

Is that what you were asking about?

Good post Tobra.

So Dan, surely you are not going to try & spin this like the poor bedraggled peace lovers are only reacting to poor treatment by everybody else, huh? This is very simple. give me the list of muslim countries that are A. well run, meaning there is some semblance of civil liberties, no stonings, bombings, etc. And B. that bet a long to any degree with the folks around them.

[Lil Black Car]

Ascalon
Acre
Rhodes
Dogorgan
Antioch
Jaffa
Beirut barracks bombing
Iranian embassy hostages
Achille Lauro hijacking
USS Cole attack
WTC attack #1 (not successful)
Two embassy bombings in Africa
Khobar tower attacks
9-11 attacks
How many can I not think of right now.
This war has been going on for a long time. It started out because we wanted to take back the holy land from the infidels back in the day when they were more technologically advanced than we (the WASPs) were. Now we are more advanced than they are in about every respect; technology, civil rights, human rights, you name it. They do not like us. Even the ones that are on "our side" do not like us, but we are gong to be here for a long time.

Mule, There ain't a one! and I have been in damn near every one of them. The only one worth visiting is Isreal, and damn if they are Muslim.
Sure do love the way this thing is spinning. More fun than FOX News...

[Mule]

You get the gold star Jimmy. They can't get along with anybody, even one another.
As Randy Newman sings, let's drop the big one, see what happens!

[DanL911sc]

Well, at the very least I'm trying to post attributed stuff. Its easy to fall back on emotional opinions and let the shifting sands of this argument bury any logic. I doubt any of us is really getting anything substantial from this.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by DanL911sc

Well, at the very least I'm trying to post attributed stuff. Its easy to fall back on emotional opinions and let the shifting sands of this argument bury any logic. I doubt any of us is really getting anything substantial from this.

I believe you are correct Dan. I am not going to change your mind, you are not going to change mine.

Difference between our positions is this. I can cite positions to support me that are absolutely irrefuteable all day long. You post some nonsense about intolerant Baptists and it is full of holes before you finish typing.

Did Superman ever post all those terrorist attacks done in the name of Jesus Christ?(See, I can even be sort of a dick about it, rub his nose in it a bit and I am still right)

[DanL911sc]

On the subject of Christian terrorists attacks, you have fairly slim pickings until you get to The Troubles. The closer you look at those, the more parallels you'll see with our situation. We're in an asymmetric war, with all that implies. The difference, for us, is the suicide bomber. On the plus side, for all modern day crusaders, you won't find many (any?) suicide bombers that aren't Muslim.