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Thumbs down U.S. sues Salvation Army for speaking English

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The Federal Government has filed suit against the Salvation Army and is targeting other businesses that require employees to speak English on the job.

The Salvation Army Thrift Store being targeted by the Equal
Opportunities Commission (EEOC) clearly posted its "speak English"
requirements and gave employees one year to learn the language.
But the EEOC still filed suit saying this was a "civil rights" violation.

And it's getting worse. Last year, over 200 similar charges
were filed with the EEOC -- up from just a handful ten years ago.

+ + Nancy Pelosi sides with EEOC’s anti-English attacks

To make matters worse, Nancy Pelosi and Congress' Hispanic
Caucus have teamed up to block an effort to put an end to
the EEOC's attacks on businesses that require English.

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) proposed a provision to the Commerce,
Justice, Science Appropriations Bill (HR 3093, S. 1745) that
would prevent the EEOC from such legal attacks. The full Senate
passed the bill--with the Alexander provision. The House also
greed to the amendment, but later withdrew support after the
Hispanic Caucus threatened to stonewall other House bills unless
the provision was removed. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
agreed, saying the House will not vote on the bill until the
English language provision is terminated.

, Pelosi and a small group of Congressmen are defending the EEOC's efforts to sue organizations like the Salvation Army that require English on the job!
I guess some people forget where they are

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There's another agenda at work in the charge against the Salvation Army. Certain liberal secularists hate the Salvation Army because it is a Christian organization that takes seriously the call to minister to those in need and to save souls. The fact that the Salvation Army's track record for getting people through treatment, into jobs and back on their feet is among the best in the field, they're a natural for people like Nancy to go after.
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**** Nancy Pelosi, **** the Hispanic caucus, and **** the EEOC.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't English the official language of this country?

Thought so...

So...how can the governments sue an entity for speaking the official language of themselves?
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't English the official language of this country?[/i]
I don't think we have an "official" language. There have been bills sponsored to do just that, but so far, none have been passed. I'm not sure why there is such strong opposition.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't English the official language of this country?
Is it? Officially?? When I turned 18, I voted, 1988, one of the things that was included when voting for the Pres, was a thing to make English the Florida state official language. I was appalled. Natually I voted to make English the state language.
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I'm not sure why there is such strong opposition.
Then where would companies get all that cheap labor from.
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I don't think we have an "official" language. There have been bills sponsored to do just that, but so far, none have been passed. I'm not sure why there is such strong opposition.

Wolfe, thanks for introducing yourself at the last autocross!
Ahha, looks like you're right. I just did some reading
I do remember seeing a show on the History channel a while back though stating something about a vote between German and English quite a long time ago...

Why is there such a strong opposition? I would imagine it's because of all the freaking goobers who don't speak English voting NO?

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**** Nancy Pelosi, **** the Hispanic caucus, and **** the EEOC.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way!
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No you are not, not by a long shot.
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**** Nancy Pelosi, **** the Hispanic caucus, and **** the EEOC.
Mark,

Wish that you would get off of the fence and let us know exactly how you feel about things!

My "signature" below might give you an idea how I feel about this...

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For now, my company's English speaking requirement is mandated by federal regulations.

§ 61.123 Eligibility requirements: General.
To be eligible for a commercial pilot certificate, a person must: [...]

(b) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language....



§ 65.71 Eligibility requirements: General.
(a) To be eligible for a mechanic certificate and associated ratings, a person must— [...]

(2) Be able to read, write, speak, and understand the English language...



§391.11 General qualifications of drivers. [...]

(b)(2) Can read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public, to understand highway traffic signs and signals in the English language, to respond to official inquiries, and to make entries on reports and records; ...


Regardless of nationality, race, etc, if I have trouble understanding an applicant and/or the applicant has trouble understanding me - they do not meet the regulations, IMO.
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Suit has no basis. A private business can make decisions such as what is required for a job description. So does this mean that trucking company cannot require that its drivers have a commercial license or that loading dock workers have the physical strength to move freight?

Mistake they make in the policy is the allowance of a year to learn English. After the person has been there for 90 days, or whatever the period is, it is nigh on impossible to fire them in California.
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If we lose our language, we lose our identity. After that we lose our country. In my view, Pelosi is a traitor to our culture if she supports this.
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So do I need to tell prospective job applicants "speak English or get the f*ck out of my office" in Spanish now instead of English? Anyone got a translator handy? I want to be "sensitive" here.
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Times have changed
My parents learned to speak English because that was the thing to do. They learned to be part of society.

Today it seems that you get a lawyer to teach society to learn your language.

Last I heard was that English is not the official language -- it was the defacto language though. California was trying to push the initiative to make English the legal language. Did it go through?

I have nothing against "legal" immigrants and think it's great they want to go to America. I just have problems when I go shopping and the clerk "doesn't speak English" or "isn't very willing to speak English".

Save the Queen's English!!!
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WTF, and they wonder why people get so pissed of they start shooting.

Doesn't the government have better things to do like trying to save the economy?
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Ahhh, divert attention is the government's plan.

Why would they want you to be focused on something that they can't get right? It's easier to find an issue like the Salvation Army and then stand on their soap boxes when election time comes around!

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