"Operation Wetback"
 

"Operation Wetback"




report, you decide ....
Verified:

http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

You're just looking for an opportunity to use the "W" word.

It's OK in this case, I think, but using wiki as 'the source' can bite you.

It often has errors, some of the articles are not researched at all, but merely someone's opinion.

Not recognized as a definitive source.

Any Wikipedia entry is only as good as the references/citations listed at the bottom of the entry. This is where, in many cases, one will find more definitive sources.

FWIW.

Best,

Kurt

From PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/timeline/20.html

Wrong, I don't use it, but the US GOVERNMENT did use it to name a program used to fix a problem. Funny, go don't see the problem (illegals) but are more upset about the use of the name so you attack the messenger

It was a joke, Byron.

I had some dumb b!tch hand wringing ninnie liberal college student come knocking on my door the other night. From King County, no doubt. Surprised she had the chops to venture door to door with this agenda in redneck Snohomish County. Must not be from around here. Anyway, she had some petition she wanted me to sign. It had to do with "undocumented residents" and protecting them. "After all", she snivelled, "families are getting split apart..." I cut her off.

"What the hell is an 'undocumented resident'?", I asked rhetorically. "It's a resident without legal paperwork", she answered. "It's an illegal alien, then." "Sir, we don't like to use that term. It has such negative connotations." "Well I do. My mom is a first generation German imigrant. My dad was third generation Irish. Both here legally and 'documented'. If folks back then could follow the legal process, these folks sure as hell can today." "But sir, you don't understand... families get broken apart when..." "But they wouldn't if they either A) came here legally, or B) stayed home."

Fuch 'em. The only "amnesty" we should grant them is access to a free bus ride home. They can file the paperwork on the way out, and come back legally if allowed to do so. It is time to start upholding the law on this. We all come from somewhere; those of us very close to that history, with family members who can relate going through the legal process still alive or held close in our memories, probably resent these illegals more than most. There is no reason to be easy on these people. When and if they come back legally I will welcome them with open arms. Like I said, we all come from somewhere.

Wow, such anger. Now I'm curious, did an illegal kick your dog? Date your daughter? Inquiring minds want to know...

I'm pretty liberal, but I have to agree with Jeff's assessment.

I would go one better: for those can sneak over to whelp an 'anchor baby': the baby can stay (that's the current rule), but the parents have to go home. If they want to have Junior apply to get his parents into the country when he turns 18, by all means, have at it - but not until then.

Yeah, but whose going to take care of Junior? Us? The taxpayers? It's a wash.

Look, it's all or nothing.

Raise a huge wall, guard it with military, and round up the ones here now, and send them back. Pass English-only laws and get rid of any Hispanic-related social services that cater to undocumented/illegals or whatever they're called.

Or, leave it as is and face the socio-economic strain.

One thing's for sure: this is the real war on terror.

Heh, I suppose the Dickensian enforcement regime is left as an exersize to the reader?

The war on illegals is a little bit like the war on drugs.

Cutting off the flow of drugs, or illegal aliens, is very hard. You are struggling with extremely long borders and desperate people.

Cutting off the demand that draws the flow is going to be more effective. Here you are dealing with people who have a lot to lose - especially for the war on illegals, since the demand is US employers who have money to take, businesses to lose, and are downright terrified of even a short jail sentence.

The government needs to develop an effective way to check the names and social security numbers that are submitted with employers' payroll taxes, against actual SSA records. Identities flagged as fraudulent should be checked and employers penalized for employing those persons. Penalties should be severe and, in extreme cases, include criminal penalties for managers and supervisors.

Admittedly, this won't be easy. But I think, in the end, it will be the more effective approach.

Then, if it turns out that some US industries in fact cannot survive without migrant labor (agriculture, let's say), it will be possible to create a legal migrant worker program that is really enforceable. Because we'll be able to distinguish real identities from false ones, we'll be able to administer a legal program.

Right now, the illegal alien issue is a joke. Politicians use it to get voters riled up (on both sides of the issue). But businesses want the labor. And politicians want to please the businesses too. And consumers are happy to consume the goods and services. So the problem never gets solved.

Finally, I think there should be some way to be lenient, or humane if you will, for illegal aliens who were brought here as children, grew up in the US, have been law-abiding and productive, and have played by the rules - even if their parents broke the rules originally. At some point, there just isn't any purpose served by punishing a child for the decades-old sins of the father.

BOTH!

It is a strain on the U.S.A........We’re already taking care of Jr and his parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, etc.

I thought about letting my observation slide, but after ready this thread I have to blurt it out.....I was in Walmart tonight and when I walked past the electronics department, they were playing one of Tim Allen's "Santa Clause" movies on the LCD TVs. No big deal big except for the fact that the audio was in Spanish. I wanted to say something to the manager, but why bother……I just walked out without buying what I wanted to get in the first place.

I guess the next thing will be the Walley World greeters will be saying “Recepción al Wal-Centro comercial. ¿usted tienen gusto de un carro de compras?”

if the u.s. wanted to keep them out...they would. its not only south of the border aliens, but in nor cal/ bay area there is huge number of middle eastern/indian and asian invasian. i doubt they are all here legally.

Constitutional amendment, repeal the automatic citizenship of anyone born on US soil if BOTH parents do not have the legal right to be here.

Do it quckly before there is enough to outvote us.....

Totally agree! In Cali its already lopsided with regards to immigrants, and its time to do something before it happens everywhere.

In the Los Angeles public school system, over 70% of all students enrolled are hispanic or Latino.
Less than 10% are caucasion.

+1 Well said Mike.

The only real way to fix illegal immigration is to raise the quotas dramatically so that those illegals can come here legally. Problem solved.

A better way is to shoot them as they sneak in, and get a way from the anchor baby crap, send them home too:mad: also like the idea of punishing businesses who hire them.

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It's "caucasian" and virtually all Latino's ARE caucasian ...just like Greeks, and Italians, and the French.

Ok, Robocop. Also good luck repealing the 14th ammendment to kick out those "anchor babies". Its a red herring anyway:

Its much easier to just stay here illegally (millions do), and stay out of the way.

That's beautiful Byron. Maybe you want to look at your family tree to see how you got here. No room for bigots or racists in my opinion.

Moot point, it's already been addressed. Not his words, but the Federal Governments.

PC first last & always huh Dan? If you think the Aztec, Mayan or Inca bloodlines of the reconquistas are caucasian, you might want to spend a little time looking into A. History & B. Genetics.

I haVE, all legal, from Cherokee, to the German & Irish. Since when is it being bigoted or racist to want the laws unforced and not reward people for breaking the law. Ignorance is something there is no room for:mad:

And you might spend a little time looking into a dictionary:

Dictionary 1. Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. No longer in scientific use.

Dictionary 2. designating or of one of the major geographical varieties of human beings, including peoples of Europe, Africa, the Near East, India, etc., who are generally characterized by tall stature, straight or wavy hair, etc.: loosely called the white race although it embraces many peoples of dark skin color.

Or are dictionaries too PC for you?

Similar situation in Sweden (and most Western European countries). We have a very large influx of refugies from former Jugoslavia. They send over the children by them selves, so the rest of the big family can join later. These kids can not be sent back according to the laws of UN (and Sweden). The government keep scattering them in groups around the country.

Currently we are expecting some twenty children at the age of 15-17 years old to be temporarily placed in our little village. These are of mostly boys and many of them have very disturbing memories and experiences from back home. We had one hundred of them fifteen years ago and all of a sudden we had to start locking up everthing. They even stole cloths hanging out to dry. Bikes, cars, furniture outside, cats, dogs.

I feel very sorry for these kids, but without a proper plan for taking care of them, the only result will be more petrol on the already growing fire of 'we and them' feeling. A very difficult issue indeed.

+1

If we could filter a fraction of the manpower and money being expended in SW Asia into some kind of meaningful effort on our southern border, significant change could be created. Amazing where the priorities are.

A wag friend of a friend proposes that Walmart build a series of Super Duper Walmarts smack against the border that span between our border towns and cities - customer entrance on U.S. side, employee entrance on the Mexico side - problem solved and both countries benefit economically :D.

Or how about the gumnt excercising their power of eminent domain and moving our military bases (we've got a lot of them in deserts now) to span those same distances along the border - that might pose a real deterrant, no? :D

No, they definitions just don't apply to the folks we're talking about. Find the definition that shows where native central & south Americans are Caucasian & we'll talk. Geeez!

Operation Wetback, Goback!

Military is kinda busy if you had not heard.

Don't think they have a lot of flexibility to defend our borders right now.

You forgot to change the font color to green when you posted that.

Go ahead, do your spin. Your constant arguments against stopping illegal immigration shows us that you are more than willing to turn California into another Mexican state and that you look forward to it. Would you mind explaining your motivation?

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Maybe you should try reading AND comprehending before accusing someone of racism. You owe him an apology.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197224385.jpg

Oh, I know. Silly to think that our military's first priority is to defend our borders.