Do you people just make this stuff up?

this country needs more Freemasons.

What kind of drugs are you using to fuel your fantasies?
1) The US sold many different military and civilian things to Iraq that were or could be used for WMD. Chemicals from DOW, hardware from the US military, electronics and electrical controls from GE, etc. Look it up. Remember before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam was our bully boy in the ME (yes, “our”, I am an American citizen, so your silly comment about “ill-gotten blood-money they received from Saddam” is completely correct).
2) I have seen the target lists and bombing results. In person, in country. We released large amounts of toxic material into the atmosphere during Gulf War I. Read the reports and the VA results and investigations concerning our own poisoned soldiers.
3) They allowed weapons inspectors in for a long time. Most of our allies were satisfied that the inspections were accurate. That is why they did not support the war. And so far all of their pre-war warnings turned out to be true (no terrorist connection to speak of, no WMD’s, the Sunni/Shiite violence, the decrease in stability, etc.)
4) Interesting stories, but if you are still holding out for Bush’s lie to become truth, don’t hold your breath. The reality was we had Saddam bottled up with no fly zones over the majority of Iraq. Saddam was not religious, and we attacked the only secular country in the ME and destabilized it for years to come. Brilliant!
5) I am smug. I did not vote for Bush. And I was wise enough to have a backup plan if the nincompoop was elected. I voted again with my feet and moved my money and domicile to a country where religious “voices in their head” types are not put into power. It turned out my analysis of the situation was correct and I did profit handsomely from my actions. Did you? And I do enjoy seeing your sorry asses having to now pay for Bush’s fiasco. And your children will pay too.

Viva la France!SmileWavy

1. Walmart sells stuff that could be made into WMD. That is not the same as selling WMD....so you have done nothing to show that your earlier post was not untrue.
2. Target lists and bombing results are top secret..forgive me if I don't believe that you have seen them. I have...of course, that was/is my business. As a rule, we do not bomb WMD sites.
3. Wepon Inspectors were not allowed to inspect anything except that which Saddam's regime allowed. This was well documented. that is why the UN and the US Congress supported action against Iraq. I have first hand knowledge. One of my employees (military) was an inspector...What is your source? Move-on.org?
4. Iraq was a brutal dictatorship and is now a fledgling democracy. Sounds like an improvement to me. Tough for you sissy french boys though.
5. Enjoy your life in France. If you were from the U.S....don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out...and please don't come back. Hopefully anyone else like you will follow. Lucky for you, ignorance is bliss. Keep your white flag ready...and hope real men will keep protecting you. As George Orwell put so brilliantly: "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

There are absolutely no WMD hidden anywhere in the Middle East. Its just not possible! Everything that was hidden was found... and of course there is nothing buried in the desert...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197792428.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197792509.jpg

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/sandplanes.asp

We are still finding things that are hidden from WW2 but the liberals do not believe that there was any WMD there. Time will tell and most of us have no doubt who will be right in the end.

Iraq-Iran war
 

Iraq's main financial backers during the Iraq-Iran war:
Saudi Arabia ($30.9 billion)
Kuwait ($8.2 billion)
United Arab Emirates ($8 billion)

Source: www.globalsecurity.org


US financial backing:
Some of the $5 billion in US and British agriculture credits were diverted to purchase military and dual-use supplies. Whatever the amount, it was a small portion of total financial support.

Iraq conventional weapons:
Iraq fought with Soviet weapons purchased in the preceding decade, with the exception of $200 million of US helicopters. These were the only direct U.S.-Iraqi military sales and were valued to be about 0.6% of Iraq's conventional weapons imports during the war.

Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute


Iraq chemical weapons:
According to Iraq's December 2002 weapons declaration to the United Nations, the top providers of chemical weapons precursors were:

Singapore* (4,515 tons)
Netherlands (4,261 tons)
Egypt (2,400 tons)
India (2,343 tons)
Federal Republic of Germany (1,027 tons)

* company affiliated with the UAE

Source: United Nations

+1.

Why do some of you have to get all defensive and take it so bloody seriously ? It was a funny video. No more, no less. :)

If Haliburton had received a no-bid contract for Saddam's "arsenal", we could have bankrupted him in a few months..

How very patriotic of you. I hope you at least had the stones to give up your US citizenship. Stay in France. We don't need you here.

Paint Saddam as a bumbling fool? Nope.

Pretend that Saddam's question for power is a misunderstanding? Nope.

Pretend that Saddam's need to provoke the US was a misunderstanding? Nope.

These beliefs are not necessary to doubt the presence of WMD. Nor are they evidence of the existence of WMD. They are..........deflections.

Saddam was easy to defeat. Twice. The real problem in the Middle East was not Saddam. The one thing Dubya should have noticed about Saddam's regime, but did not, is that Saddam maintained a country that was religiously STERILIZED. There was no way he was going to tolerate any level of control being exerted by religious fanatics. Dubya opened the flood gates for that. For money and fame. Using WMD as an excuse. He was duped. And then he blamed it on his advisors. What a leader.........

Wake me up if you guys come up with something, anything other than a guess, that will make me suspect there were WMD. At this point, you guys have nothing but guesses. And some evidence that COMPONENTS for
WMD were sold to Iraq before Gulf War I. Wake me up when you think you have something.

Hope he took some of the liberals with him as he was running away!

We all remember the ones who were going to move out of the country if Gore was not elected?

Funny stuff, even funnier are the GWB apologist.

Saddams never delivered yacht...............now for sale.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/17/wsaddam117.xml

Interior pictures:
http://www.burgessyachts.com/SaleAndPurchase/YachtSpecs.asp?thisID=4100&YachtType=Motor&YachtNa me=OCEANBREEZE

Not a bad back-up plan!

You will be eating a lot better, that's for sure. And certainly you will be drinking better.

You'll have full access to one of the best health-care systems on the planet.

You'll have an open and serious media in which real issues are actually debated by intelligent people.

You'll live in a land where a no-talent frat boy will never be elected president, and where major foreign policy decisions are not made by a guy in consultation with "his God".

You'll live in a land that has a judicial system that is relatively swift and fair and accessible , and a penal system that rehabilitates, rather than just incarcerates.

You'll live in a land with an education system that doesn't graduate generation after generation of functional illiterates.

You'll live in a land that has learned from it's past mistakes, and no longer engages in unilateral military adventurism abroad.

Oh yes, you'll be dressing a lot better too...and then of course there are French women. Mon Dieu! And you have the best driving roads in all of Christendom!

That's one hell of a back up plan!

I'm sure I missed a few things. But maybe Mule can help me out with the rest.

Not going into WMD's nor anything else "discussed" on this thread, this has got to be the most egotistical thing I've read in my years here. Wow.

Whilst we might disagree in our views on other subjects, I wish you and everyone else a long and happy life no matter who you vote for or wherever you might live.

Why do you guys care what a few foreign trolls have to "contribute" to the discussion? They are both full of crap, if you have read pretty much anything they have said, frenchy #1 is an American citizen one minute, and lording it over the stupid Americans who will have to pay for it all the next.

Besides, everyone knows that California wines are superior to French wines in practically every way, French women tend to be hairy and dirty, the food is average the tobacco and automobiles below average and they are just about to be taken over by the adherents of the religion of peace.

Invaded again... This time, they can call the UN. We're not good enough.

rjp

Actually, I was attempting to balance the discussion just a little bit.

As for your last paragraph - France is a pretty nice gig. Trust me on this.

Exactly. Oh, and "full access to one of the best health-care systems on the planet."
Uh, socialized healthcare isn't all it's cracked up to be, and worse in the specialized fields (oncology, etc.). Trust me on this.