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gassy 12-15-2007 08:43 AM

Proof of WMD's. Finally.
 
http://break.com/index/maybe-we-did-overestimate-the-threat.html

:D

livi 12-15-2007 08:50 AM

Donīt show this to W. He will go berserk. :D

Besides that, is it because I know the character of those men and what they did, that make them look so incredibly stupid ? I mean, look at their faces, they all look like retards.

sammyg2 12-15-2007 10:15 AM

Maybe the rest of the world should shut the heck up except to say "thank you" to GW for cleaning up their mess. If they had any clue or self-restraint there wouldn't have been as much of a need to get rid of the WMD. What i find interesting is that many of the countries who claim there never were WMD have been proven to have SUPPLIED equipment or components to make the WMD. Maybe they just have a guilty conscience want to pretend it never happened.

Quote:

1975 — Saddam Hussein arrived in Moscow in April. He asked about building an advanced model of an atomic power station. Moscow would approve, but only if the station was regulated by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Iraq refused.

After 6 months France agreed to sell 72 kg of 93% Uranium and built the atomic power station without International Atomic Energy Agency control at a price of $3 billion.
In the early 1970s, Saddam Hussein ordered the creation of a clandestine nuclear weapons program. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs were assisted by a wide variety of firms and governments in the 1970s and 1980s. As part of Project 922, German firms such as Karl Kobe helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and tear gasses in all. This work allowed Iraq to produce 150 tons of mustard agent and 60 tons of Tabun in 1983 and 1984 respectively, continuing throughout the decade. Five other German firms supplied equipment to manufacture botulin toxin and mycotoxin for germ warfare. In 1988, German engineers presented centrifuge data that helped Iraq expand its nuclear weapons program. Laboratory equipment and other information was provided, involving many German engineers. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin. The State Establishment for Pesticide Production (SEPP) ordered culture media and incubators from Germany's Water Engineering Trading.

France built Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in the late 1970s. Israel claimed that Iraq was getting close to building nuclear weapons, and so bombed it in 1981. Later, a French company built a turnkey factory which helped make nuclear fuel. France also provided glass-lined reactors, tanks, vessels, and columns used for the production of chemical weapons. Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was French. Strains of dual-use biological material also helped advance Iraq’s biological warfare program.
Italy gave Iraq plutonium extraction facilities that advanced Iraq’s nuclear weapon program. 75,000 shells and rockets designed for chemical weapon use also came from Italy. Between 1979 and 1982 Italy gave depleted, natural, and low-enriched uranium. Swiss companies aided in Iraq’s nuclear weapons development in the form of specialized presses, milling machines, grinding machines, electrical discharge machines, and equipment for processing uranium to nuclear weapon grade. Brazil secretly aided the Iraqi nuclear weapon program by supplying natural uranium dioxide between 1981 and 1982 without notifying the IAEA. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil.
The United Kingdom paid for a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas. The government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill permission to supply parts for the Iraqi supergun, precipitating the Arms-to-Iraq affair when it became known.
An Austrian company gave Iraq calutrons for enriching uranium. The nation also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure, 16% of the international sales. Singapore gave 4,515 tons of precursors for VX, sarin, tabun, and mustard gasses to Iraq. The Dutch gave 4,261 tons of precursors for sarin, tabun, mustard, and tear gasses to Iraq. Egypt gave 2,400 tons of tabun and sarin precursors to Iraq and 28,500 tons of weapons designed for carrying chemical munitions. India gave 2,343 tons of precursors to VX, tabun, Sarin, and mustard gasses. Luxembourg gave Iraq 650 tons of mustard gas precursors. Spain gave Iraq 57,500 munitions designed for carrying chemical weapons. In addition, they provided reactors, condensers, columns and tanks for Iraq’s chemical warfare program, 4.4% of the international sales. China provided 45,000 munitions designed for chemical warfare. Portugal provided yellowcake between 1980 and 1982. Niger provided yellowcake in 1981.

Amazing, isn't it? References for the above material is readily available. Yet we still have morons who insist there were no WMD because they heard someone else say it and they liked the way it sounded.

Remember which countries were most vocal against the US going onto Iraq after the WMD? Russia, France, and Germany. The three coultries that had supplied the most material, technology, and materials to make those WMD.
Could it be that they were so tightly wound up in Iraq's programs that they knew the WMD were either destroyed or hidden or moved?

Racerbvd 12-15-2007 10:19 AM

Liberal are the real WMD, they are destroying this great country from the inside:mad:

HardDrive 12-15-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3647220)
Maybe the rest of the world should shut the heck up except to say "thank you" to GW for cleaning up their mess.


*sniff*.....ahhhhhh......I love the smell of fresh moonbat in the morning....

HardDrive 12-15-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 3647223)
Liberal are the real WMD, they are destroying this great country from the inside:mad:

Ohhhhhhh....and some fresh squeezed Florida moonbat too!

island911 12-15-2007 10:50 AM

Ah, the art of dismissiveness...

Sammy is spot on, as usual. It sure looks like fun for the Bush-bashers to paint Saddam as a bumbling fool. ...pretend that Saddams quest for power and Saddams need to provoke the US were all just a big misunderstanding. :rolleyes:

sammyg2 12-15-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 3647225)
*sniff*.....ahhhhhh......I love the smell of fresh moonbat in the morning....

Soooo, you're response to my post is to call names in an attempt to discredit the information I posted because it is contrary to your position. You've read and studied the liberal manual well:
"Whenever you are confronted by the truth, put your fingers in your ears and hum loudly"

tabs 12-15-2007 11:36 AM

U mean the Iraqies actually produced those weapons in that video? My Gawd GW was right on, we needed to keep those weapons outa the hands of such a brutal madman bent on the destruction of the free world.

cool_chick 12-15-2007 11:41 AM

That's awesome, gassy. LOL

alf 12-15-2007 11:53 AM

Sammy, you have to admit that was a pretty funny video :)

RoninLB 12-15-2007 12:17 PM

General Vo Nguyen Giap

General Giap was a brilliant, highly respected leader of the North Vietnam military. The following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam war memorial in Hanoi:

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

General Giap has published his memoirs and confirmed what most Americans knew. The Vietnam war was not lost in Vietnam -- it was lost at home. The exact same slippery slope, sponsored by the US media, is currently well underway. It exposes the enormous power of a biased media to cut out the heart and will of the American public.

A truism worthy of note: Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media far more, for they will destroy your honor.

Hard-Deck 12-15-2007 12:52 PM

I already had proof, I was on the first rotation.

Dantilla 12-15-2007 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapper33 (Post 3647499)
I already had proof, I was on the first rotation.

Thank you for your service.

Tim Hancock 12-15-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 3647748)
Thank you for your service.


+1

RPKESQ 12-15-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3647220)
Maybe the rest of the world should shut the heck up except to say "thank you" to GW for cleaning up their mess. If they had any clue or self-restraint there wouldn't have been as much of a need to get rid of the WMD. What i find interesting is that many of the countries who claim there never were WMD have been proven to have SUPPLIED equipment or components to make the WMD. Maybe they just have a guilty conscience want to pretend it never happened.




Amazing, isn't it? References for the above material is readily available. Yet we still have morons who insist there were no WMD because they heard someone else say it and they liked the way it sounded.

Remember which countries were most vocal against the US going onto Iraq after the WMD? Russia, France, and Germany. The three coultries that had supplied the most material, technology, and materials to make those WMD.
Could it be that they were so tightly wound up in Iraq's programs that they knew the WMD were either destroyed or hidden or moved?

Yeah it is amazing. Amazingly half-assed research.
Where are all of the WMD components that the US sold to Saddam listed? And where is all of the WMD's that were sold after Gulf War I? What no listings?

So you are accusing other countries of selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq when the US was selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq? Yeah, I can see where that is just wrong of those countries.

Almost all (99%) WMD type stuff was destroyed in Gulf War I. Look it up.

So where is all the vast WMD stuff that Saddam was able to acquire after the first Gulf War? You know the immense quantity of WMD stuff that Butthead Bush stated was the initial reason for Gulf War II? Funny how it has never been found.

But that's alright, just keep believing in the nitwit you elected, no matter how many of his lies are exposed. He has been very profitable to me. His ability to lower the value of the US dollar is greatly appreciated.

gassy 12-15-2007 04:26 PM

All Hail the ...

Slingshot!

hahahahahaha

CC-pm me

fintstone 12-15-2007 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3647818)
Yeah it is amazing. Amazingly half-assed research.
Where are all of the WMD components that the US sold to Saddam listed? And where is all of the WMD's that were sold after Gulf War I? What no listings?

So you are accusing other countries of selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq when the US was selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq? Yeah, I can see where that is just wrong of those countries.

Almost all (99%) WMD type stuff was destroyed in Gulf War I. Look it up.

So where is all the vast WMD stuff that Saddam was able to acquire after the first Gulf War? You know the immense quantity of WMD stuff that Butthead Bush stated was the initial reason for Gulf War II? Funny how it has never been found.

But that's alright, just keep believing in the nitwit you elected, no matter how many of his lies are exposed. He has been very profitable to me. His ability to lower the value of the US dollar is greatly appreciated.

1. The US never sold any WMD to Iraq.
2. 99% of Iraq's WMD were not destroyed during the first Gulf War. We intentionally did not destroy it during the war becuse it required special procedures during destruction to keep it out of the atmosphere.
3. Iraq never provided any proof that they destroyed much of their WMD after the war...that is why there were sanctions, and eventually a war.
4. There is a post on this BBS about finding hundreds of thousands of dollars in a bathroom wall. Apparently it had been hidden there since the 40's. The infamous Captain Kidd was hanged in 1701. His ship was finally found this month off the Dominican Republic. Treasure hunters had searched for it for almost 300 years. Many said it wasn't there. It was under just 10 feet of water. There are a lot of things such as this ship that were never even intentionally hidden...that cannot be found. Imagine how hard it would be to find something something intentionally hidden...using the incredible financial resources that Saddam had.
5. Keep being smug while your countrymen spend their ill-gotten blood-money they received from Saddam.

Hard-Deck 12-15-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 3647807)
+1

Thank you both in return.

I'm proud to serve.

cool_chick 12-15-2007 04:36 PM

Happy HolyDays. Grow a sense of humor, prople.


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