Al Gore-how inconvenient truth is?

[lendaddy]

I don't believe it's about money for Algore, he just wants to matter. Remember he went into deep depression and gained like 80 lbs after he lost to Bush. The guys not all there.

[Chocaholic]

I think the problem is that too many have bought into the claim that WE have caused global warming. I would agree that it's occuring, but WE have little or nothing to do with it. All this carbon emissions crap is pure crap. The single biggest greenhouse gas is...guess.....water vapor. H2O. Perhaps we should ban that too? Heck, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter are all warming along with us. How will Al Gore stop that?

[RANDY P]

oh, and the Sun is getting hotter as well.. Concidence? Probably not.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

. . . snip . . .

Heck, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter are all warming along with us. How will Al Gore stop that?

Here's the problem!

We need to get rid of this scourge soon!

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by RANDY P

Not surprising from someone who thinks Che is a hero.
rjp

Che is my hero? You're kiddding right?

As for the rest of your post - you live in a global community. That may not be something of which you are aware - but you really should pull your head out of your bum once in a while and think about this.

[Rearden]

Originally Posted by Dottore

This is pathetic and shameful stance for a nation that was once admired in the world. This is not just a leadership vacuum. It is an instance of "frat-boy" belligerence that is typical of this administration.

You are aware that the US rejected Kyoto while Bush was governor of Texas, n'est-ce pas?

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Che is my hero? You're kiddding right?

As for the rest of your post - you live in a global community. That may not be something of which you are aware - but you really should pull your head out of your bum once in a while and think about this.

1) no, one would think by having his picture as an avatar would be as a sign of tribute.

2)no, since I'm the one paying for your benefit through taxes. The moment I get something from you in return, I'll think about it. In the meanwhile, please keep your laws to yourself.

rjp

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Rearden

You are aware that the US rejected Kyoto while Bush was governor of Texas, n'est-ce pas?

Better yet, John Kerry was our delegate to the Kyoto Conference and when he got home, the Senate voted 98-0 to not ratify it and this was even before Clinton had thought about submitting it for ratification. Bush couldn't have gotten Kyoto ratified even back when he had political capital.

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by RANDY P

1) no, one would think by having his picture as an avatar would be as a sign of tribute.

rjp

That's me on Halloween. My wife went as Margaret Thatcher.

I wouldn't draw too many conclusions about people's avatars. Especially not on this board.

[DARISC]

[QUOTE=lendaddy;3653144]Remember he went into deep depression and gained like 80 lbs after he lost to Bush.QUOTE]

Didn't more people vote for Gore than Bush?

[nota]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

I think the problem is that too many have bought into the claim that WE have caused global warming. I would agree that it's occuring, but WE have little or nothing to do with it. All this carbon emissions crap is pure crap. The single biggest greenhouse gas is...guess.....water vapor. H2O. Perhaps we should ban that too? Heck, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter are all warming along with us. How will Al Gore stop that?

water vapor is self limiting
thats called RAIN

co2 % CAN AND HAS , BUILT UP AND UP over time
with no rain like way to bring it down quickly
co2 cycle time is about 500 years

both solar out put and other planets temps are newish data
blaming the sun is not a good answer
as even if true co2 adds to the effect
so co2 limits will help lessen the total rize in temps
even if co2 is not the sole cause
complex problems donot have simple eazy answers
but do NOTHING never is the best idea

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Maybe the whole world is wrong, and the hand full of troglodytes on this board are right about climate change.

Hate to break it to ya Dot man, those socialist whack jobs don't comprise "the whole world."

I expect that a few years from now, when floods and droughts are commonplace, and you can't tell one season from another anymore, you'll still be here, muttering something about "flawed science".

Nostraf*ckindamus, 'eh. Care to make a wager on just one "inconvenient truth," like say 20' of water in Miami?

No surprises there.

Sadly.

But what is truly is amazing, is watching an international conference in which the whole world is trying to nail down some measureable benchmarks for cleaning up the atmosphere - and always coming across the one bully boy that refuses to play; the solitary turd in the punchbowl: the good old US of A.

As soon as they come up with one that doesn't require their hands in our pockets, we'll talk.

Even more pathetic, is the way this stance is justified. "We want to keep all options open" and "we don't want to box ourselves into a corner". Even the delegates from the US had trouble saying this repeatedly with a straight face.

One more example of your twisted thinking. We reduced emission more than almost anybody. But actions don't count, only correct thought.

This is pathetic and shameful stance for a nation that was once admired in the world. This is not just a leadership vacuum. It is an instance of "frat-boy" belligerence that is typical of this administration.

This nation was never admired by socialists. Hopefully that never changes, comrade!

[Mule]

Originally Posted by RANDY P

oh, and the Sun is getting hotter as well.. Concidence? Probably not.

It's Bush's fault.

[the]

Originally Posted by kstarnes

Here's the problem!

We need to get rid of this scourge soon!

"Since the beginning of time, Man has yearned to destroy the sun!"

C. Montgomery Burns

[Hugh R]

I've read that CO2 emissions are higher from many German cars than Japanese or others. I guess people don't understand what that means. CO2 is the ultimate end product of combustion, that and H20. If your not producing CO2, your producing CO. The more CO2 you emit, the cleaner burning is your engine.

[carnutzzz]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Maybe the whole world is wrong, and the hand full of troglodytes on this board are right about climate change.

I expect that a few years from now, when floods and droughts are commonplace, and you can't tell one season from another anymore, you'll still be here, muttering something about "flawed science".

No surprises there.

But what is truly is amazing, is watching an international conference in which the whole world is trying to nail down some measureable benchmarks for cleaning up the atmosphere - and always coming across the one bully boy that refuses to play; the solitary turd in the punchbowl: the good old US of A.

Even more pathetic, is the way this stance is justified. "We want to keep all options open" and "we don't want to box ourselves into a corner". Even the delegates from the US had trouble saying this repeatedly with a straight face.

This is pathetic and shameful stance for a nation that was once admired in the world. This is not just a leadership vacuum. It is an instance of "frat-boy" belligerence that is typical of this administration.

Wrong wrong wrong. Did you not read the previous posts? If the data is correct- the US is LEADING the world in the reduction of greenhouse gases. We don't need to sign BS contracts with corrupt countries which may in fact impact our economy in a negative fashion- we're already leaders, leading by example.

"A few years from now" we're going to be experiencing the same ol' same 'ol, not the catastrophes you predict (any more than usual anyways).

I'll keep it simple- one does not measure the Earth in years, decades, nor centuries. The cycles of the Earth and climate have always been, and will always be measured in the thousands or millions of years. Call me then and we'll talk about it. Until then it's empty talk, a ploy to redistribute the planet's wealth, and a political platform.

Don't be a sheep.

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by Dottore

That's me on Halloween. My wife went as Margaret Thatcher.

I wouldn't draw too many conclusions about people's avatars. Especially not on this board.

And this whole time I was under the impression it was just your Anti American side flapping in the wind...

Forgive me, not that anyone would make that mistake

rjp

EDIT: are you sure it just wasn't a tradition from college that you just NOW figured out? Be honest here, we're friends...

Yes, Che was an *********..

rjp

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by carnutzzz

I'll keep it simple- one does not measure the Earth in years, decades, nor centuries. The cycles of the Earth and climate have always been, and will always be measured in the thousands or millions of years. Call me then and we'll talk about it. Until then it's empty talk, a ploy to redistribute the planet's wealth, and a political platform.

Don't be a sheep.

Great post! Sums it up perfectly. Thanks.

[legion]

Originally Posted by Dottore

As for the rest of your post - you live in a global community. That may not be something of which you are aware - but you really should pull your head out of your bum once in a while and think about this.

What a load of crap. This whole "global community" thing I find most often spouted by people who are adamantly anti-U.S.. Coincidence? I think not. This is really just an excuse to bludgeon the U.S. and its economy to death as a kind of sick revenge. What these people really want to turn control of the U.S. economy (regulated through CO2 emissions) over to the U.N.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by carnutzzz

Wrong wrong wrong. Did you not read the previous posts? If the data is correct- the US is LEADING the world in the reduction of greenhouse gases. We don't need to sign BS contracts with corrupt countries which may in fact impact our economy in a negative fashion- we're already leaders, leading by example.

"A few years from now" we're going to be experiencing the same ol' same 'ol, not the catastrophes you predict (any more than usual anyways).

I'll keep it simple- one does not measure the Earth in years, decades, nor centuries. The cycles of the Earth and climate have always been, and will always be measured in the thousands or millions of years. Call me then and we'll talk about it. Until then it's empty talk, a ploy to redistribute the planet's wealth, and a political platform.

Don't be a sheep.

You are wasting your time on this America hater
He never misses a chance to bash this great counry or our President
But he sre can't stayy awayfrom his fie Americanr site or o of our country can he. Go back and ask coastal Texans who are over 100 about storms & floods that hit.

1900: Known as "the Galveston Hurricane," the deadliest hurricane disaster in U.S. history occurred on September 8. More than 8,000 people died when hurricane storm tides (the surge plus the astronomical tide) of 8-15 feet inundated the entire island city of Galveston, Texas. More than half of all the homes and buildings were destroyed. Property damage is estimated at $700 million in 1990 dollars.

July 20, 1909 a hurricane passed directly over Velasco, Texas, There, the calm center lasted 45 minutes, and was followed by devastating winds on the other side which destroyed one-half of the town.

In August, 1909, a very violent hurricane raked Haiti, caused high winds and rains in Cuba, and entered the Yucatan Channel on August 25. As the storm approached the Mexican coast it caused gales and tremendous seas along the Texas coast. It went to Northeastern Mexico causing an enormous loss of life and property. Unofficial estimates placed the Mexican death toll at 1,500 as a result of floods and mud slides.

1915: On August 16, a very large and violent storm hit Galveston. Despite the 10-foot-high seawall built after the 1900 hurricane, storm tides 12 feet above normal flooded the business district to a depth of six feet. 275 people lost their lives from a combination of high water and strong winds.

1919 a hurricane hit Corpus Christi. This unnamed storm was fourth most intense and deadly storm of the 20th century. It passed near Key West, Florida, on September 9-10. The slow-moving storm reached an intensity of 27.37 inches (927 mb) in the vicinity of the Dry Tortugas -- Florida islands 65 miles west of Key West. Ten vessels were lost at sea accounting for more than 500 of the 800-900 deaths. The hurricane continued slowly westward and on September 14, the center went inland south of Corpus Christi. There, tides rose 16 feet above normal and another 287 lives were lost.

Or I guess man cause Pompi to errupt too, or the other planets in this solar system to warm up