Al Gore-how inconvenient truth is?

[fintstone]

An excellent read on Al Gore's recent trip to Bali

Sunday, December 16, 2007
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071216/OPINION03/712160309/1007/OPINION
Nolan Finley
Gore's warming plan will blister U.S.

Al Gore has met the global warming enemy, and it is U.S.
The former vice president and recent Nobel Peace Prize winner declared with great disdain at the international climate change talks in Bali that the United States bears the blame and shame for stalling the crusade against greenhouse gases.
"I am not an official, and I am not bound by diplomatic niceties," Gore said to applause. "So I am going to speak an inconvenient truth: My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here in Bali."
It's hard to imagine an elder statesman from any other nation rising to the global stage to hurl mud balls at his countrymen.
But Gore is now bigger than America. He belongs to the world. As such, he's fluent in the international language that translates every wrong into an indictment of Americans.
Gore's condemnation of his homeys reflects the frustration that the Bush administration isn't keen to agree to rigid caps on carbon emissions. Joined at times by other industrial nations worried about becoming deindustrializing nations, the U.S. prefers to leave Bali with a more flexible commitment to addressing global warming without growth-killing carbon mandates.
Gore could have spoken another inconvenient truth at the talks, if he weren't so hell-bent on casting America as the boorish ogre of the global warming drama.
He could have reminded the delegates that in 2006, total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions fell 1.5 percent -- and the intensity of those gases fell 4.2 percent -- without an international pact.
By contrast, the European Union, which is loudly proud of signing on to the Kyoto Protocol, increased greenhouse gas emissions 0.4 percent.
The decrease in U.S. emissions is attributed to a greater use of natural gas in electricity production, declines in agricultural and industrial methane output and better land-use and forestry practices, among other things.
That's some good news and might have started the conferees thinking about the effectiveness of voluntary, market-based solutions to global warming.
But that would rub hard against Gore's agenda of forcing America to accept a lesser place on the planet.
If last year's reduction proves to be a trend, the United States will trim its greenhouse gas emissions 15 percent during the next decade, without damaging economic growth.
That seems a reasonable strategy. Throwing the nation into an economic tailspin to address a situation we don't yet fully understand would be irresponsible.
But if Gore and his Bali disciples prevail, growth in the United States and other developed nations will grind to a quick halt, while developing nations such as China and India remain free to pollute at will.
That will trigger the greatest transfer of wealth in modern history, as American jobs rush to places with the least regulatory burdens, and more Americans join the ranks of the world's poor.
A generation from now, Americans may well look back at Al Gore as the Benedict Arnold of his age, someone so determined to save the earth he was willing to ruin his country.

[fintstone]

Mark Steyn also commented on Gore's trip"

“Consider how deeply invested the "mainstream" is in a total fiction. At the recent climate jamboree in Bali, the Rev. Al Gore told the assembled faithful: "My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here." Really? The American Thinker's Web site ran the numbers. In the seven years between the signing of Kyoto in 1997 and 2004, here's what happened:
•Emissions worldwide increased 18.0 percent;
•Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1 percent;
•Emissions from nonsigners increased 10.0 percent; and
•Emissions from the United States increased 6.6 percent.
It's hard not to conclude a form of mental illness has gripped the world's elites. If you're one of that dwindling band of Westerners who'll be celebrating the birth of a child, "homeless" or otherwise, next week, make the most of it. A year or two on, and the eco-professors will propose banning Nativity scenes because they set a bad example”

[1fastredsc]

Note to Al Gore:
Here's a thought, why not let people who are educated on the subject speak, and STFU. Your background is in politics, not science.

PS- Apparently Nobel Prizes are handed out to just about anyone these days.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by 1fastredsc

Note to Al Gore:


PS- Apparently Nobel Prizes are handed out to just about anyone these days.

I want one, too. It will look nice in my office.

[ChrisBennet]

Originally Posted by 1fastredsc

Note to Al Gore:
Here's a thought, why not let people who are educated on the subject speak, and STFU. Your background is in politics, not science.

PS- Apparently Nobel Prizes are handed out to just about anyone these days.

Professor Farnsworth: It's a little experiment that might win me the Nobel Prize.
Leela: In which field?
Professor Farnsworth: I don't care -- they all pay the same.

[Rick Lee]

C'mon! Al Gore has now joined the prestigious likes of Yassir Arafat and Kofi Annan as Nobel "Peace Prize" Laureates. That's the kind of company I'd like to keep.

[sammyg2]

Al Gore is a dishonest opportunistic wacko. I respect him and what he says about as much as jessie jackson.

[Dottore]

Al Gore was right to be embarrassed, and to try to distance himself from his US colleagues.

The behaviour of the US delegation at Bali was appalling. Here are 183 countries trying to seek a consensus on a serious committment to moving forward to reduce emissions - and they are blocked at every turn by a US delegation that refuses to agree to anything because they don't want "to box themselves into a corner".

At one point the South African delegation - I think it was - asked the US delegation to please "get out of the way" if they had nothing constructive to contribute, to great applause from the floor.

It was really pathetic to watch.

[lendaddy]

Is that when the douchebag started crying? Pathetic indeed.

[Joeaksa]

Have been in Europe and a ways East the last 2 months and CNN and many of the European news agencies do nothing but cover his every word. Bet that if he farted that they would think that a new trend has started.

The guy makes me sick but he is walking all the way to the bank on this crap. He needs to just to cover his utilities on his multiple houses and private jets.

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

The guy makes me sick but he is walking all the way to the bank on this crap. He needs to just to cover his utilities on his multiple houses and private jets.

Maybe the whole world is wrong, and the hand full of troglodytes on this board are right about climate change.

I expect that a few years from now, when floods and droughts are commonplace, and you can't tell one season from another anymore, you'll still be here, muttering something about "flawed science".

No surprises there.

But what is truly is amazing, is watching an international conference in which the whole world is trying to nail down some measureable benchmarks for cleaning up the atmosphere - and always coming across the one bully boy that refuses to play; the solitary turd in the punchbowl: the good old US of A.

Even more pathetic, is the way this stance is justified. "We want to keep all options open" and "we don't want to box ourselves into a corner". Even the delegates from the US had trouble saying this repeatedly with a straight face.

This is pathetic and shameful stance for a nation that was once admired in the world. This is not just a leadership vacuum. It is an instance of "frat-boy" belligerence that is typical of this administration.

[Komenda Fan]

Dottore wrote:

"the solitary turd in the punchbowl: the good old US of A."

Hey, don't forget about us! Canada has changed tack and is now siding with our neighbours to the south, we held the conference up too! Damn, we need some more people up here, we're too small, everyone forgets about us...

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Maybe the whole world is wrong, and the hand full of troglodytes on this board are right about climate change.

I expect that a few years from now, when floods and droughts are commonplace, and you can't tell one season from another anymore, you'll still be here, muttering something about "flawed science".

No surprises there.

But what is truly is amazing, is watching an international conference in which the whole world is trying to nail down some measureable benchmarks for cleaning up the atmosphere - and always coming across the one bully boy that refuses to play; the solitary turd in the punchbowl: the good old US of A.

Even more pathetic, is the way this stance is justified. "We want to keep all options open" and "we don't want to box ourselves into a corner". Even the delegates from the US had trouble saying this repeatedly with a straight face.

This is pathetic and shameful stance for a nation that was once admired in the world. This is not just a leadership vacuum. It is an instance of "frat-boy" belligerence that is typical of this administration.

Not surprising from someone who thinks Che is a hero.

Do you ever bother to think that you would be stripped and possibly be killed then your wealth re-sidtributed by being declared as an enemy of the state if someone like Che had his way? He's a murderer and opposed to personal gain. You from what I can tell are what he would consider a capitalist pig.

Admired by the world? So, it only matters when hostile governments (like France for instance, who is trying to impose a tarriff on USA goods throughout Europe) benefit?

As for this world community nonsense, like I said it's USA is only good when other countries can reap benefit from their money. I for one am glad the USA largely gives the finger to the UN and their so - called world laws and mandates. Without the USA the UN is nothing.

rjp

EDIT: I say we give back the Statue of Liberty, and next time France gets invaded, call the UN instead.

rjp

[RANDY P]

PS - if anyone else out there wants to complain, you can become a citizen, and actually have a vested interest (read - legitimate right) in whatever the problem may be and vote for change like the rest of us, that's assuming you have something to bring that we can use.

After all, we don't need useless whiners here We have plenty enough already.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Maybe the whole world is wrong, and the hand full of troglodytes on this board are right about climate change.

I expect that a few years from now, when floods and droughts are commonplace, and you can't tell one season from another anymore, you'll still be here, muttering something about "flawed science".

.

"a few years from now"? Maybe in a few MILLION years.

Gore is all about making money now.

[MichiganMat]

Nolan Finley has provided us with a nice bit of Faux-News style opinion here, and its just about as sophisticated...

As such, he's fluent in the international language that translates every wrong into an indictment of Americans.

BooHoo. Why won't the world stop picking on us? Waahhh.

Gore's condemnation of his homeys reflects the...

What? Homeys?

That seems a reasonable strategy. Throwing the nation into an economic tailspin to address a situation we don't yet fully understand would be irresponsible.

What don't we understand? That climate change is happening? Economic tailspin? Really, you really don't think we can survive if we have to change the way we operate? You give Americans too little credit sir.

That will trigger the greatest transfer of wealth in modern history, as American jobs rush to places with the least regulatory burdens, and more Americans join the ranks of the world's poor.

I love this sentence. Rush, rush to the unregulated places, catastrophe, Armageddon! We earn more of our wealth off the backs of the unregulated poor than almost anyone and yet our homes are owned by the Chinese, our industries by the Arabs in Dubai...

You can't be a pimp and a prostitute too.

A generation from now, Americans may well look back at Al Gore as the Benedict Arnold of his age, someone so determined to save the earth he was willing to ruin his country.

Leave it to a guy from Detroit (its OK, Im from there) to have no faith in American innovation. Anyone who thinks we won't innovate our way out of climate restrictions is selling us short and giving us too little credit. India and China are not innovators, they are laborers. If we want them to pipe down on their emissions, maybe we could start by not giving them so much of our business and find better, cheaper, and more efficient ways to do it on our own soil. How about instead of pointing the finger we try to clean up our own side of the street first. You can do it America, I believe in you.

[Mo_Gearhead]

QUOTE: "I expect that a few years from now, when floods and droughts are commonplace, and you can't tell one season from another anymore, you'll still be here, muttering something about "flawed science"."

____________________

Care to put money where your environmental mouth is?

I'll even let YOU set the rules. YOU pick the year. YOU choose the areas, coastlines, countries where flooding will occur. You can set the amount of the 'wager'.

We will send the money to Wayne to hold in escrow.

And geez .. I REALLY need you to give me a heads up on any pending tornado's here in Missouri!

Thanks in advance for that!

[jorian]

"Gore is all about making money now."

This is a typically myopic view of the man. AG has the opportunity to make a lot more money serving his own interests than he does serving others. AND without all of the public stone throwing.

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by jorian

"Gore is all about making money now."

This is a typically myopic view of the man. AG has the opportunity to make a lot more money serving his own interests than he does serving others. AND without all of the public stone throwing.

His own interests being seen a spokesperson and resident "expert" of one of the hot topics of the 21st century - global warming. The beneficiary of all his endorsements being the Democratic Party, of course.

rjp

[URY914]

How is he (AG) serving others?