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Danny_Ocean 12-19-2007 08:54 PM

No more ricer-bashing for me...
 
...now I is one:

Anyone else out there have an NSX as a DD?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ch/NSX/NSX.jpg

911Rob 12-19-2007 09:31 PM

I had a couple buddies that drove these; they swore by them! Great sportscar.
I couldn't fit in the thing though. My buddy would push down on my head through the Troofs, too funny.
They were tip trannies though, not a big fan.

Looks like fun, congrats!!

Danny_Ocean 12-19-2007 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Rob (Post 3656703)
I couldn't fit in the thing though. My buddy would push down on my head through the Troofs, too funny.
They were tip trannies though, not a big fan.

This one is a 6-spd. man. How tall are you?

trekkor 12-19-2007 09:40 PM

I'd drive it.

they rip around the track.



KT

HardDrive 12-19-2007 09:42 PM

Fantastic cars, but I wish they had put more development into it over the years. It was a ground breaking car style wise, but to leave it unchanged for 15 years was a mistake.

Regardless, beautiful car. Certainly a car that will be noted in sports car history as a milestone.

911Rob 12-19-2007 10:00 PM

Hey Dan,
I figured you'd buy a 6 speed!!! :)
I'm 6'-4" and 240Lbs

Can't fit in most vehicles; the 993 is a tad tight even.

You'll love driving that car; my two buddies could drive whatever they wanted too; and I'm sure they've owned many types such as Ferrari, etc. The one guy that tried to squeeze me into my car was the guy that put me onto Porsches originally. Taught me alot about having things that made me happy, no one else and how to go about finding it. Great Guy.

911Rob 12-19-2007 10:06 PM

This is an old pic of my buddy...... Greg. One of the biggest dreamers and goal setters I've ever known.
we use to work together, he loved his NSX; then one of my other buddies bought one too.
They are truly great cars from what I've been told.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1198134295.jpg

bigchillcar 12-20-2007 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Rob (Post 3656727)
Hey Dan,
I figured you'd buy a 6 speed!!! :)
I'm 6'-4" and 240Lbs

Can't fit in most vehicles; the 993 is a tad tight even.

You'll love driving that car; my two buddies could drive whatever they wanted too; and I'm sure they've owned many types such as Ferrari, etc. The one guy that tried to squeeze me into my car was the guy that put me onto Porsches originally. Taught me alot about having things that made me happy, no one else and how to go about finding it. Great Guy.

6'2"and 235 lbs here...send it down to arkansas rob whenthe ashtrays get full andtime to dispose..i'll fit better..... SmileWavy the 964 is starting to have electrical issues.............

Christien 12-20-2007 04:20 AM

I had the intense pleasure of getting a few laps around Mosport in the passenger seat in an NSX 2 years ago. My impression was it was a great combination of comfort and agility. It was very nimble and handled the corners extremely well, but didn't feel rough or harsh at all. I can see how it would be a problem for someone quite tall (I'm 5'7 so it's not an issue). It did feel a slight bit underpowered for its weight, but was still a very memorable ride, and I've driven and been for rides at Mosport in many different cars. (probably the least memorable was a GT3!)

Z-man 12-20-2007 06:31 AM

You're not a ricer - the NXS is in a different league than a Civic, Teggy, or any of those sub-compacts that kids call "sports cars" these days..

The NSX is an awesome car - I like the earlier style - with the pop-up headlights - like you have.

So, when are you gonna track that puppy? :)

-Z-man.

legion 12-20-2007 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 3656717)
Fantastic cars, but I wish they had put more development into it over the years. It was a ground breaking car style wise, but to leave it unchanged for 15 years was a mistake.

That was my thought. Isn't it pretty underpowered too?

sammyg2 12-20-2007 06:45 AM

True story, the guy I hought my 911 from bought an NSX (red of course) a couple years after he sold me my car. I went over to his house to check it out.

He gave me a ride in it and it performed well. Civilized, polished, nice.

Then I offered him a ride in my car. Seems L neglected to mention the turbo to him. He said he knows all about that car, i talked him into it.
As I was taking a wide sweeper in third on full boost, he was grasping for something to hold onto and yelling something.
He went on and on how that cvar was so much faster etc.
Two weeks later he sold the NSX for a grand less than he paid after putting less than 500 miles on it. He's a tad on the materialistic side, the type that thinks you buy a sports car to impress other people. Evidently his NSX wasn't impressive enough any more. He told me last week that he's planning to get a viper ..............
:rolleyes:

the 12-20-2007 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 3656663)
...now I is one:

Anyone else out there have Camaro as a DD?
http://i13.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/c3/2a/69a8_3.JPG


Ah, c'mon, you Camaro drivers are the biggest ricer-bashers of all!

RickM 12-20-2007 07:15 AM

I drove a friend's early NSX for quite a while as I helped prep and sell the thing. He had installed an upgraded exhaust, chip and K&N setup. To be honest the car was nice but lacked the personality I hoped it would have. To me it was an Acura that handled well but was boring.

rammstein 12-20-2007 07:18 AM

Awesome car- last I knew, there was a video on the mid-ohio website with an NSX tearing it up. The engine sounded quite nice.

Are you gonna put naaawwwws in it? ;)

Flatbutt1 12-20-2007 08:18 AM

not exactly a ricer...is it? No big bore exhaust pipe. no rear deck wing.

Paul K 12-20-2007 09:37 AM

Ayrton Senna had input on the design, FWIW.

JeremyD 12-20-2007 10:40 AM

You need a fart can and some neon.

Danny_Ocean 12-20-2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 3657579)
You need a fart can and some neon.

Fart can and neon are on back-order...(blue neon readily available, but I really had my heart set on purple).

To answer/dispel some comments:

Yes, the car is underpowered (270hp ~ 290hp depending on year) for its weight (3153 lbs. Japan-only version weighs in @ 2910 lbs.) A lot of folks over at the NSX forum have bolted on superchargers. There's a few "claiming" 700+ hp :eek:

Maintenance costs can sneak up on you...60k service requires changing the timing belt...must unbolt one side of the motor and tilt for access... :( I don't even want to know what a clutch is gonna cost.

From what I understand, the NSX went through a few changes over the years, cosmetically & mechanically (3.0 ~ 3.2, etc.). Production is on hiatus until '08 or '09 when they'll (allegedly) be re-introducing the next generation.

'96 ~ '97 B/W Viper GTS is the next car to be added to the stable.

Camaro?!? :rolleyes: squared.

Seric 12-20-2007 12:08 PM

LOVE the NSX. When I was in college I worked for an Acura dealer shortly. I got to drive one on a dealer trade and it is one of the best cars I have ever driven.

RickM 12-20-2007 12:09 PM

IIRC, my friend's NSX went through tires like crazy. I believe it was the rears/inboard.

Tobra 12-20-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickM (Post 3657739)
IIRC, my friend's NSX went through tires like crazy. I believe it was the rears/inboard.

that was an issue with the early cars, think there was even a class action suit about it.

Great car, accord reliability, near supercar performance when new, not so super compared to what is out there now. Would love to have one. Ideal daily driver if you ask me.

motion 12-20-2007 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 3657721)
Yes, the car is underpowered (270hp ~ 290hp depending on year) for its weight (3153 lbs. Japan-only version weighs in @ 2910 lbs.)

Great cars, but how can this be considered underpowered? Same numbers as my 993 Cab, which has very respectable power!

Tobra 12-20-2007 12:41 PM

NO low end torque, feel pretty weak unless you are up in the rev range, which is true of a lot of cars I guess. More power delivery than power

Komenda Fan 12-20-2007 01:08 PM

I had the pleasure of getting some laps in at Shannonville with a 1990 NSX and a 1990 964 C2, they were both lapping similar times, but the NSX sounded like sex, just a glorious wail, and the NSX felt much more composed.

Danny_Ocean 12-20-2007 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 3657802)
Great cars, but how can this be considered underpowered? Same numbers as my 993 Cab, which has very respectable power!

*When compared to more modern "fire-breathing" cars (Turbo Porsches, C6 Corvettes...and, of course, Legion's Pontiac Sunfire & 944's :D ).

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion
Isn't it pretty underpowered too?


911Rob 12-20-2007 03:27 PM

Viper? Zoom, Zoom.
Sweet ride too.

Even tighter for the big guy though, ha, ha.

Ryan, you don't look 235Lbs man?

Mule 12-20-2007 03:46 PM

Low end is every Honda's weak point. I drove an s2000 when they first came out. Sucked mightily. Wouldn't pull a greased string out of a cat's ass. Revved to 9k though. If you're comfortable driving around at 6k & above, performance was good. They turn good lap times & suck on the street.

Hugh R 12-20-2007 04:15 PM

I had a friend (died) who used to work for JD Power and Assoc. One day he showed up with one , it was a mule for the auto magazine reporters, it had been driven hard every day of its like I drove it for a few hours. Every control is right where you think it should be. Lots of fun.

dweymer 02-27-2008 07:18 AM

My buddy here has one, nice car. Definately different than my 74 911!

Check out nsxprime.com for a forum, not a lot of DIY though.

Porsche-O-Phile 02-27-2008 07:27 AM

NSX is a great ride, hardly what I'd consider "rice". It's a legitimate sports car with balls to go along with the looks.

That said, I still prefer my "old" 911. :)

Mule 02-27-2008 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3657812)
NO low end torque, feel pretty weak unless you are up in the rev range, which is true of a lot of cars I guess. More power delivery than power

That's the Honda way. I drove an S2000. Power wise it brought back memories of a 36 hp beetle. ZERO low end. If you kept the revs above 6k, great power. Virtually useless. As a street car I would rank it as a waste of metal.

Porsche-O-Phile 02-27-2008 08:00 AM

Yea, I test-drove the S2K they had on the lot when I ended up buying my SLK. If you drive the ever-loving p1ss out of it, it's great. But something about keeping the revs up over 6,000 RPM all the time would be very annoying for street use, not to mention getting the attention/ire of the popo.

tchanson 02-27-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 3657450)
Ayrton Senna had input on the design, FWIW.

Congratulations, Danny. The NSX is a fantastic car, and I would guess it will make a pretty decent daily driver as well.

I've often thought of buying an early one, and may still.



Senna at Suzuka with the R:

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Tim

tcar 02-27-2008 01:14 PM

The next gen is supposed to have a 4.5 V10 available. And a MUCH NEEDED restyle.

Hopefully it will be a LOT better looking. The old/current is not ugly, but has those weird, bland, uninspiring awkward proportions the Japanese (particularly Honda in the past) are so well known for. Looks like a kit car Camaro. IMO

Buckterrier 02-27-2008 02:36 PM

Congrats Mr. Ocean. At the ALMS race at Lime Rock last year they had a Porsche & an Acura corral. Must have been 30 NSX's. SWEEEEET. The styling is timless. I was at the Detriot auto show in the late 80's when the Viper was a concept car. I remember my buddy and I saying it was to bad it would never be made!!!

onewhippedpuppy 02-27-2008 02:41 PM

Awesome cars. A friend of mine's father had one for track duty, he managed to drop a good amount of weight from it, then added a supercharger. Supposedly it was an absolute beast.

cab83_750 02-27-2008 03:15 PM

I three tmes attempted to buy a '97+ NSX. All 3 sellers flaked out on me at the last minute.

Anyway, I asked NSX owners (who own or previously owned Porsches) for comparison. Here is a reply from (I think) a Italian racer:

I have had 5 "classic" Porsches

1981 3.3 Turbo (300 hp Euro car)
1975 2.7 Carrera (MFI 210 hp Euro car)
1989 3.2 Carrera (231 hp Euro car)
1992 Carrera 4
1971 2.2 Targa (which I still have).

I'm writing them up not to show off, but because it gives me a big pleasure to remember those dear friends (the cars of course).

Now I also have a 91 NSX with the NSX-R 6-speed box, big Brembo brakes, Taitec headers and Lightweight exhaust, plus 17" wheels all around.
The general performance of this car is absolutely fantastic and will outperform each of my Porsches. It's a big pleasure to drive too.
Having said that....well there is something in a Porsche that no other car has. Something that makes your heart beat a bit faster (no, it's not its handling at the limit ). It's difficult to describe, but you know what it is, don't you?
...and that something you may not find in an NSX. And for that matter surely not in a post 993 Porsche.
IMHO.

The reason why I love my NSX is that it combines high precision engineering, with reliability and still "some" of the heart, so strongly embedded in the old Porsches.


Chocaholic 02-27-2008 03:59 PM

It's surprising to read that so many criticize Honda for not restyling / updating the NSX. It really is a classic high-end sports car design. We are so quick to criticize Porsche with each new version of the 911, yet we think that Honda should have done the same with the NSX.

I for one...really like the design and believe they were right to maintain the platform as they did.

Danny_Ocean 02-27-2008 04:10 PM

Here's a couple of '09 NSX concepts...2nd one looks like the latest "Z" car (ugh):

http://acura.your-honda.com/(HSC)%20...202009%201.jpg

http://images.leftlanenews.com/conte...ar-concept.jpg


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