So if time (of space/time) runs out, whats it gonna be like?

[cstreit]

Well I guess you wouldn't notice anything. If time slows, so does everything related to it.

So while an external observer may notice our "minute" takes one of his minutes now, 1mm years from now our movements/passage of time could take a lot longer. He'll take credit for discovering a race of sloths.

Bill, an interesting point that article makes regarding the speeding up of the expansion of the universe is that it may NOT be accelerating, rather it may just be that our time dimension is slowing down relative to the dimension of the remote objects we are viewing. Makes sense to me.

[Mule]

I've had employees being affected by this for years.

[frogger]

I bet it wouldn't slow down this enterprising fella.

[svandamme]

when time space runs out
you just took to much lsd
and you'll be riding it out for better or for worse

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by jluetjen

I just saw something recently about how a seemingly unrelated part of physics has been used to demonstrate that there is a maximum size to either a black hole or at least the event horizon -- but for the life of me I can't seem to remember the details. For some reason I seem to remember it within the context of some scientist who just passed away and the work that he had done in the area.

Does this ring a bell with anyone????

I'm pretty sure the answer is 7.

[Moneyguy1]

But....

What was the question?

[trekkor]

No Big Bang, no Big Crunch, time will not end or go backward.



KT

[frogger]

The bible told him so.

[jluetjen]

Sammy -- The answer is 42. The point is: What's the question???

Frogger; Before you pick on Trekkor too much, the latest information (see my post on the first page regarding the Gravitational Constant) is that he's more right then anyone who's expecting a "big crunch". The universe is expected to expand and cool forever as a result of the Gravitation Constant being "just right". Read the data!



I'm not sure about his "Big Bang" comment since the opening verses of Genesis (to discuss the subject in his preferred Biblical terms for a moment) sure sound like a broad description of the "Big Bang". But the who and why of that subject belong on another thread that's trying to get to 10K postings(!).

Lord John Whorfin:

May I pass along my congratulations for your great interdimensional breakthrough. I am sure, in the miserable annals of the Earth, you will be duly enshrined.

later...

Orderly:

Who are you today, Doc? Einstein?

Lord John Whorfin:

Lord John Worfin. If there's one thing I hate, it's to be mistaken for somebody else.

[trekkor]

Aren't all the very distant observations being made today, just the light finally reaching the viewer millions/billions or more years ago? You know, looking into the past.

You can't view *anything* in real time.
The light must travel. That takes time.

There are visible objects in the night sky that may not really be there anymore.


KT

[Moneyguy1]

No kidding.......

"Way to go, Obviousman!!" (to quote a current commercial)

[trekkor]

I'll take that as a compliment, as there are a multitude of people that are not able to see the obvious at all.


KT

[kach22i]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml;jsessionid=AR2NIXXKMIPYLQFIQMFCFFWAVCBQ YIV0?xml=/earth/2007/10/10/scitime110.xml

"There isn't just one dimension of time," Itzhak Bars of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles tells New Scientist. "There are two. One whole dimension of time and another of space have until now gone entirely unnoticed by us."....................................

Bars claims his theory of "two time physics", which he has developed over more than a decade, can help solve problems with current theories of the cosmos and, crucially, has true predictive power that can be tested in a forthcoming particle physics experiment.

If it is confirmed, it could point the way to a "theory of everything" that unites all the physical laws of the universe into one, notably general relativity that governs gravity and the large scale structure of the universe, and quantum theory that rules the subatomic world.

I owe myself some overtime pay I think, I've been working double time.

[Moneyguy1]

trek..It is not necessarily a compliment. When the scientists speak of "light years", I would guess that there are a considerable number of people who understand the concept. Besides, if the concept of "light years" is valid, then how does that square with the age of the universe?

[trekkor]

The age of the universe is unknown, as I've said all along.

People say they understand the universe and light years and all the other interesting things.
But, I'm not buying it. Mostly unkown with guesses flying furiously. ( Agian, the obvious )


KT

[WI wide body]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

but what does it have to do w/ my post?

I dunno...just seemed to fit..in a time/space sort of way.

Want the other half of it?

[kstar]

Originally Posted by trekkor

The age of the universe is unknown, as I've said all along.

People say they understand the universe and light years and all the other interesting things.
But, I'm not buying it. Mostly unkown with guesses flying furiously. ( Agian, the obvious )


KT

I have never spoken to or read of or heard of a scientist who claims to understand the universe.

A light year is not only understood, it is a unit of measurement that is universally accepted by rational folks; Like an inch or a foot.

FYI, it is the distance light travels in a vacuum in a year, typically a Julian year: 9,460,730,472,580.8 km. This is known because the speed of light can be measured and directly observed with exceptionally high precision in a laboratory.

Respectfully, because you cannot accept or comprehend a light year does not make it any less understood than a "meter" or a "mile".

Best,

Kurt

[Moneyguy1]

Life long amatuer astronomer here. Kitt Peak visitor as well. Never have I met another astronomer, professional or amatuer who has said they "understand" the universe. In my own case, sometimes I just empty my mind of facts and theories and just look up, saying: "WOW!!"

Who is it that said: "The universe is not stranger than we imagine it to be, it is stranger than we could ever possibly imagine it to be."

And, yes....the "speed of light" is measurable and quantifiable; not just a "guess".

[Mule]

It happened once. All I had to do was put a new battery in my watch & everything was fine.

[trekkor]

Yes, the "light year" has been established as a "unit".
Doesn't mean man really understands it, though.
Be honest.

It's only observational at this point, and only from our point of view.
Maybe, and I mean maybe if man advances to speed of light space travel, then there will be some absolutes on the subject.

And any relationship it may or may not have regarding time perception to the traveler.


KT