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Who will pay for the sin of murdering the unborn?

Today I wear black in protest of a war within our borders and on the most innocent of life, the unborn.

35 years ago today, the Supreme court issued a confused verdict on the life of the unborn. It was a compromise on when life begins and has rights. The court agreed with both the plaintiff and defendant and made a terrible decision to split the difference in an arbitrary date on when the unborn human gains human rights.

So, after 35 years who will pay for this sin of murder and war on the innocent?

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Old 01-22-2008, 06:39 AM
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I wish that I had the ultrasound pictures of my sons to share. Some of them were in 3D and pretty amazing, and all prior to 30 weeks.
I think if more people saw them there would not be a debate.
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There'd still be a debate.
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Almighty God, our Father,
you who have given us life
and intended us to have it forever,
grant us your blessings.
Enlighten our minds to an awareness
and to a renewed conviction
that all human life is sacred
because it is created
in your image and likeness.
Help us to teach by word
and the example of our lives
that life occupies the first place,
that human life is precious
because it is the gift of God
whose love is infinite.
Give us the strength to defend human life
against every influence
or action that threatens or weakens it,
as well as the strength
to make every life more human
in all its aspects.

Give us the grace...

When the sacredness of life
before birth is attacked,
to stand up and proclaim
that no one ever has the authority
to destroy unborn life.
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The penalty is just beginning to be seen.

The social security system is also hit, those 34 year old aborted workers aren't there to replace the retiring.

The borders are flooded with illegal immigrants who work jobs the aborted cannot perform, the aborted weren't even given a chance or choice, they're dead.

Now we're dealing with language barriers aborted citizens would not burden us with.

Black panthers once claimed a silent genocide against minorities resulted in Roe Vs. Wade. Perhaps Americans have lost MLK of the 21 century because of this.
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The borders are flooded with illegal immigrants who work jobs the aborted cannot perform, the aborted weren't even given a chance or choice, they're dead.
Last time I looked, the un-aborted 34y/o's won't do the work of the illegals.
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The social security system is also hit, those 34 year old aborted workers aren't there to replace the retiring.

The borders are flooded with illegal immigrants who work jobs the aborted cannot perform, the aborted weren't even given a chance or choice, they're dead.

Now we're dealing with language barriers aborted citizens would not burden us with.
Of course, for your "arguments" there are valid counterpoints.

The social security system will be relieved in a few years by the aborted humans not being there to collect.

The non aborted Mexican immigrants are the ones flooding the border. If only the Mexicans had more abortions there would be less illegal immigration!
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The penalty is just beginning to be seen.

The social security system is also hit, those 34 year old aborted workers aren't there to replace the retiring.

The borders are flooded with illegal immigrants who work jobs the aborted cannot perform, the aborted weren't even given a chance or choice, they're dead.

Now we're dealing with language barriers aborted citizens would not burden us with.

Black panthers once claimed a silent genocide against minorities resulted in Roe Vs. Wade. Perhaps Americans have lost MLK of the 21 century because of this.
Wow.

Can you actually substantiate that?
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+1 That's kind of a stretch, Doug.
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Speaking of baby boomers, 2003 Census data showed 35.9 million Americans are over the age of 65. There have been 50 million legal abortions since 1973. Assuming 1.428 million a year (50 million /34) that would put an additional 22.8 million Americans at working age of 18 or older right now.

What kind of economic impact would this have had if 22.8 million more American workers were in the work force?
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The penalty is just beginning to be seen.

The social security system is also hit, those 34 year old aborted workers aren't there to replace the retiring.

The borders are flooded with illegal immigrants who work jobs the aborted cannot perform, the aborted weren't even given a chance or choice, they're dead.

Now we're dealing with language barriers aborted citizens would not burden us with.

Black panthers once claimed a silent genocide against minorities resulted in Roe Vs. Wade. Perhaps Americans have lost MLK of the 21 century because of this.


Doug, i read your initial post and said to myself 'preach it brother!!!'.

Then i read your post about soc. security, etc. NONE of those things matters a whit in comparison to one human life. not only are those assertions questionable at best they detract from your initial statement which i felt was beautiful.
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I wonder. Sometimes, people get so wound up in issues like this that it becomes "black and white" (in many ways). I do not believe in abortion on demand, but I keep inmind a nuber of factors such as the responsbiltie(s) of the people seeking abortions, the lifestyle of some of the kids who would be raised in an environment with no hope, cruelity, abuse, and so on. It is such a complex issue that I do not see any way that it will ever be resolved to the satisfaction of all.
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What kind of economic impact would this have had if 22.8 million more American workers were in the work force?
Translation: "please have babies so we can tax them. "

I'm surprised that you left out the "...and send them to war"
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It's very telling that MANY women who have abortions experience psychological and emotional problems later in life. Also, excluding politicians, how many mothers and fathers do you see arguing in favor of abortion?

It's a sad sign of the selfish, immoral, self-serving society we live in. Screw up and get pregnant? Just kill it the baby. Sure, because the baby is to blame for your irresponsibility. What ever happened to adoption? I know several young couples that would love to have a baby.

As the father of two, it's a concept that makes me sick. I absolutely cannot believe that there are those in our society who feel it is ok to take the life of a child.
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Speaking of baby boomers, 2003 Census data showed 35.9 million Americans are over the age of 65. There have been 50 million legal abortions since 1973. Assuming 1.428 million a year (50 million /34) that would put an additional 22.8 million Americans at working age of 18 or older right now.

What kind of economic impact would this have had if 22.8 million more American workers were in the work force?
You’re assuming that all 22.8 million would actually be working.

What drain would those who aren’t working put on the rest of us who are? What drains would 22.8 million put on our natural resources? They’d all want gas in their cars, how much would the additional demand cause the price of gas to go up?

Etc, etc.
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I think you should be able to do what you want with your body and other women (and men) can do what they want with theirs.

My God said wanking is a crime and that anyone who's ever done that should have their dick cut off. Please report to the clinic on Wednesday at 9. If you're a woman you'll have to say goodbye to the clitty.

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