I know this is important to many people

[trekkor]

As you may know, I do not involve myself with politics.

That being said, this is not a thread about politics or candidates or even policy in general.

I'd like to know what is important to YOU from a human standpoint.
What really matters to YOU and do you think THAT will be addressed or solved by ANY future leader?


Thanks


KT

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by trekkor

As you may know, I do not involve myself with politics.

That being said, this is not a thread about politics or candidates or even policy in general.

I'd like to know what is important to YOU from a human standpoint.
What really matters to YOU and do you think THAT will be addressed or solved by ANY future leader?
KT

From a human standpoint, I feel the Constitution is a singular moment of achievement...what matters to me is that we return to the principles outlined, return to the intent of the FF.

I believe the last 70 years or so of, "interpretation" have reaped a bitter harvest.

The FF's were flawed men, as is the document, but its basis in thought forms an undeniable foundation of hope.

That, and I'd like to have my Targa back.

[baldman]

#1 - treat everyone equally and with respect regardless of race/religion/gender/sexual orientation/economic standing/etc.
#2 - see #1.

Solved by any future leader? Nope. Never. As long as group #1 has more money and votes than group #2 leaders will screw over group #1 to stay in power.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

A strict interpretation of the Constitution including upholding completely the Doctrine of Separation of Church & State.

[rfuerst911sc]

No one in this great country should go hungry,without basic medical care or live on the street unless that's what they choose. I wouldn't mind a fair tax system either.

[Flatbutt1]

The return of this union to the people. No politician will allow this so we must take it back.

[Lothar]

The experiment that put individuals and individual liberty above government, mob rule and collectivism was unparalleled in human history. Government needs to be put back in its place of limited scope and size.

Most important to me is to see a society that permits each individual to be the best human being they can be, without interference, regulation or exploitation on the part of elitists who think they know better how people should live. All levels of government should strive to permit individuals to succeed in the manner that is dictated by their individual gifts and talents.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are sorely missing from a society where the masses are brainwashed into capitulation and subservience to a master that places no value in the individual and views people as merely part of a collective to be molded by public policy and political correctness.

Despotism, dictatorial and totalitarianism resulting in exploitation and oppression are the norm of human existence. The very few and limited examples in history where individuals had unfettered freedom to exercise their skills, gifts and talents were ultimately crushed as a result of the natural tendency toward collectivism and a lack of vigilance in the defense of such individual rights.

America was founded on the belief that individual rights come not from governments but from a higher authority. The People have only themselves to blame for surrendering their individual sovereignty for the empty promise of institutions that promise to provide for their every need.

It is imperative that people wake up and realize that they are being exploited by those who would concentrate power in so few over so many.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

From a human standpoint, I feel the Constitution is a singular moment of achievement...what matters to me is that we return to the principles outlined, return to the intent of the FF.

I believe the last 70 years or so of, "interpretation" have reaped a bitter harvest.

The FF's were flawed men, as is the document, but its basis in thought forms an undeniable foundation of hope.

Well said, I agree... few people appreciate how much time... in days, hours, years, the FF put into the Constitution... or on how much they disagreed but they put that aside to create this great union.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by Flatbutt1

The return of this union to the people. No politician will allow this so we must take it back.

Yes but do we have the balls to do that?

And if so, how?

[gprsh924]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

A strict interpretation of the Constitution including upholding completely the Doctrine of Separation of Church & State.

+1

Also, personal responsibility, especially fiscally

[tabs]

That we return to the Laws of Allah as set forth in the Koran...Allah Akbar.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by Lothar

The experiment that put individuals and individual liberty above government, mob rule and collectivism was unparalleled in human history. Government needs to be put back in its place of limited scope and size.

Most important to me is to see a society that permits each individual to be the best human being they can be, without interference, regulation or exploitation ....

This seems unbelievably naive to me. Repeal all regulations, and then expect everyone to be hard-working, polite, reliable and honest.

Other than that, I would agree 130%.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Social Darwinism.

[trekkor]

I appreciate the replies thus far.

I am curious if you feel that the most basic of human needs will be addressed and provided by a government.

If yes, which one and how?


I see a lot of concerm by individuals over little things when thay are compared to the basics.



KT

[the]

Originally Posted by trekkor

I am curious if you feel that the most basic of human needs will be addressed and provided by a government.

If yes, which one and how?

National security (the need to be free from foreign invaders). I don't know if a bunch of Fastpats with muskets would be enough.

Court system. I'm not sure I can envision a private court system, esp. on the criminal side. Need courts to protect contract and other rights, and for criminal trials (protect liberties, fair trials, etc.)

[einreb]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

A strict interpretation of the Constitution including upholding completely the Doctrine of Separation of Church & State.

FYI... there is no mention of the separation of church and state in the constitution.

[Lothar]

Originally Posted by Superman

This seems unbelievably naive to me. Repeal all regulations, and then expect everyone to be hard-working, polite, reliable and honest.

Other than that, I would agree 130%.

Did I say "repeal all regulations? No. My point was that government should not implement policies that impede liberty.

The Constitution clearly provides for a society under the rule of reasonable and limited law. The vast majority of laws should not, however, be the product of federal government. State and local governments are far better equipped to legislate those matters that affect their constituents. State's rights have been as badly trampled as those of individuals.

Again, the founders intent was made clear in the 10th amendment.

[legion]

Originally Posted by Lothar

Did I say "repeal all regulations? No. My point was that government should not implement policies that impede liberty.

Is your mouth full of words you didn't speak, courtesy of the man of steal? I know that feeling.

***

I supremely believe in the Second Amendment. Without it, none of the rest of the Constitution is not worth the paper it is written on. It is the ultimate guard against the excesses of government. Predictably, those who want the government to run every aspect of our lives, despise this last, essential safeguard.

[baldman]

Originally Posted by einreb

FYI... there is no mention of the separation of church and state in the constitution.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


This can be argued all day long, but one of the reasons for revolting was the ability to freely practice religion without fear of repercussions. When a government establishment (court, city hall, etc) places an item like the 10 Commandments - a strictly Christian document - in their building it gives the impression of repressing other religions. Is there actual favoritism toward one religion in the government? Who knows - but let me ask you this...
If you went into a court for restitution of damages to your Porsche and the judge had Ferrari stuff everywhere, including a big Ferrari logo on the wall, wouldn't your first thought be "uh-oh"?

[onewhippedpuppy]

Lothar nailed it, nothing more to add here. Well done.