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Moses 02-20-2008 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rearden (Post 3780259)
Castro owns all the major companies (Forbes estimates his wealth to be nearly $1 billion). Trade with Cuba = Castro becomes a multi-billionaire.

Why should that bother us?

72doug2,2S 02-20-2008 11:15 AM

I hope Dwayne is better than Fidel.

Hawktel 02-20-2008 11:29 AM

I can't figure out why the released this information at 3:00 am.

WI wide body 02-20-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3779864)
Maybe not this thread, but there would be another one just like it about some other damn place


Legion makes plenty of sense to me, and I agree with him a lot more than I do you, though I can't find anything to disagree with in this post, which is a bit disturbing.

You seem to be one very confused person!

WI wide body 02-20-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 3780160)
I don't think you are an expert on me either. SmileWavy

Since you are from my home state I'm gonna guess that you are not as confused about that word as is Tobra.;)

WI wide body 02-20-2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rearden (Post 3780259)
Castro owns all the major companies (Forbes estimates his wealth to be nearly $1 billion). Trade with Cuba = Castro becomes a multi-billionaire.

So what? A couple of clucks started GOOG and they could buy and sell Castro. In fact they could buy him and keep him!

We have as much business telling the Cuban people who they should have in power as we do telling the Iraqi people how to run their country.

We are a democratic republic and not some sort of imperialistic policeman of the world. That's how we got into most of the crap we find ourselves today.

Rearden 02-20-2008 12:56 PM

Internal CNN email - guidance for how to treat Castro's stepping down from power


From: Flexner, Allison
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:46 AM
To: *CNN Superdesk (TBS)
Cc: Neill, Morgan; Darlington, Shasta
Subject: Castro guidance

Some points on Castro – for adding to our anchor reads/reporting:

* Please say in our reporting that Castro stepped down in a letter he wrote to Granma (the communist party daily), as opposed to in a letter attributed to Fidel Castro. We have no reason to doubt he wrote his resignation letter, he has penned numerous articles over the past year and a half.

* Please note Fidel did bring social reforms to Cuba – namely free education and universal health care, and racial integration. in addition to being criticized for oppressing human rights and freedom of speech.

* Also the Cuban government blames a lot of Cuba’s economic problems on the US embargo, and while that has caused some difficulties, (far less so than the collapse of the Soviet Union) the bulk of Cuba’s economic problems are due to Cuba’s failed economic polices. Some analysts would say the US embargo was a benefit to Castro politically – something to blame problems on, by what the Cubans call “the imperialist,” meddling in their affairs.

* While despised by some, he is seen as a revolutionary hero, especially with leftist in Latin America, for standing up to the United States.

Any questions, please call the international desk.

Allison

Rearden 02-20-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3780525)
Why should that bother us?

I choose not to empower dictators.

legion 02-20-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3781055)
Since you are from my home state I'm gonna guess that you are not as confused about that word as is Tobra.;)

Quote:

And He was asking him, "What is your name?" And he said to Him, "My name is Legion; for we are many."
;)

varmint 02-20-2008 01:46 PM

if i see a man stealing, i have a right to interfere. if i see a man beating a woman, i have a right to interfere. if i see a dictator oppressing a country for fifty years, i have a right to interfere. i have a duty to interfere. refusing to trade with such a monster is pretty much the bare minimum.

most of the arguments for leaving castro alone sound like rationalizations for cowardice.

We have as much business telling the Cuban people who they should have in power as we do telling the Iraqi people how to run their country.

let's look at the delusion at the heart of this statement. the cuban people have never had a free election. castro imposed a one party marxist dictatorship. the only clue we really have to what the cuban people want comes from those who've managed to escape the island prison. and they want the embargo.


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