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I think we should ban cigarettes.

Why are heroin and cocaine illegal and cigarettes are not?

Look at the horrible health repercussions for both individuals and society in terms of costs. Spare me the, 'its an individual choice' baloney. We allow the sale of a product that when used as intended will, at bare minimum, shorten your life and lead to debilitating disease, and at worse kill you horribly through cancer or emphysema. We don't say, 'its a choice!' when people want to stick needles in their arms do we?

Other than PROFITS I can think of nary a single reason cigarettes should be legal.

Cigars, pipe tobacco? People have used these for hundreds (perhaps thousands) of years. While not good for you, they are not an industrially designed drug delivery system like cigarettes.

BTW, I am both and ex-smoker, and an ex-drug user, and I can assure you that cigarettes are WAY more difficult to quit than any other drug I tried.

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Old 02-20-2008, 10:03 AM
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Ban booze then while you're at it.

That worked before right?
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I like booze, so that's not gonna work. Go ahead and ban anything you want as long as it's something I don't use.
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Ban booze then while you're at it.

That worked before right?
About as well as our 'war on drugs' is working now.
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Ban booze then while you're at it.

That worked before right?
Alcohol as a drug has been entrenched in our social traditions for Millenia.

Cigarettes are not. No one toasts at a wedding with a Lucky Strike.
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Smoker here trying to quit yet again.

Agree, ban em.

But it is cheaper for Healthcare to keep people smoking.

The cost of treating the associated medical issues is less than providing for them when they live longer.
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Mmmmmmmmmm, Lucky Strikes. Now I want a smoke. Hardrive, it appears that you've never been to one of my family weddings.
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i will be one of the few PPOTers who agree with banning smokey treats.

man i loved those things but pure evil is what they are.
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Alcohol as a drug has been entrenched in our social traditions for Millenia.

Cigarettes are not. No one toasts at a wedding with a Lucky Strike.
Tobacco has been used for centuries as well...
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Alcohol as a drug has been entrenched in our social traditions for Millenia.

Cigarettes are not. No one toasts at a wedding with a Lucky Strike.
Some form of smoking has probably been around as long as some form of alcohol consumption.
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Ban booze then while you're at it.

That worked before right?
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:20 AM
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Why are heroin and cocaine legal and cigarettes are not?
b/c the Colombians don't have 1/1000 the lobby power of Philip Morris, RJR, et al? Just a guess.
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Yeah, the GOVERNMENT should ban everything that is bad for you. j/k

HardDrive, check your first post. I believe you will find the word legal should be replaced with illegal.
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How 'bout legalize everything and let the idiots that want to smoke, drink, shoot up, toke, Big-Mac or whatever themselves into an early grave let them. We've got too many people as it is and we sure as hell don't need Big Brother (funded by my tax $$$) to hand-hold them or fix the problems created by bad choices on the part of the stupid and indiscriminate.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:44 AM
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Can't ban smoking because a lot of white people do it.

And before you go huh, read up on how they banned the drugs we have banned. It was very racist.
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Just move to Calabasas, CA (I think that is the town) ... you can't even smoke in your own house!
Awesome, so now instead of driving to New Hampshire to buy stuff without having to pay sales tax you can now drive to the next town to have a drag.
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How 'bout legalize everything and let the idiots that want to smoke, drink, shoot up, toke, Big-Mac or whatever themselves into an early grave let them. We've got too many people as it is and we sure as hell don't need Big Brother (funded by my tax $$$) to hand-hold them or fix the problems created by bad choices on the part of the stupid and indiscriminate.
+1

Freedom of personal choice should be priority over all. C'mon people! This is the United States! LESS government... remember? "Let's ban everything that is potentially bad for us, so we all live forever."

Like Bill Hicks said, “I have something to tell you non-smokers that I know for a fact that you don't know, and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times. Ready?..... Non-smokers die... every day. . . . Enjoy your evening. See, I know that you entertain this eternal life fantasy because you've chosen not to smoke, but let me be the 1st to POP that bubble and bring you hurling back to reality . . . You're dead too.”

I, a former smoker, quit because I didn't want to smoke anymore. If , while I did smoke, the government had put a ban on it, I still would have smoked.

People that want weed, get weed. People that want cocaine, get cocaine. Make everything legal, and you take out the criminal contingent. And no, you won't have a society of raving drug addicted lunatics running around. At least no more than now.
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Naw, just tax the hell out of it.

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