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This has been going on for a long time. My wife works for a large manufacturing company some on this board might have heard of and they haven't build plants in China for cheap labor for a long time. They build in China to sell to their domestic market, to be close to raw materials and to have access to skilled workers. Indoneasia, Bangaladash, Vietnam are all lower cost manufacturing sites.
China has a long way to go but they'll go the route of Japan and Korea soon. It used to be that Japan was the center of low cost wages. Then they became the highly skilled manufacturing center and low cost/low skill stuff was made in Korea. That ended maybe 20 years ago. China and the smaller Asian Tigers are next in line. 20 years from now people will be writing about the Bangaladashis taking over the world and China will be just Europe East to most Americans.
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Someday we might have to buy items made..................in AMERICA!!!!! Oh, the horror....
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We sell stuff there all the time.
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MRM is correct - this movement from one country to another in the eternal quest for the cheapest labor has been going on for quite some time.
Just wait a few years, and it will move again. Soon (who can predict when?), the entire world will become homogenized, and there will be no country left that is willing to work for slave wages, and we are then going to see prices equalize. Then perhaps quality will become the next Big Thing. For example, Audi builds cars in Hungary and Slovakia because labor is cheaprer than in Germany. Japan is now building cars in Korea because it is cheaper than in Japan. It will never end.
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Just looked in my immediate vacinity...My Toshiba laptop, Microsoft mouse, dress shirt and Sony LCD monitors. All high quality stuff made in China.
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Buick is the highest selling American car in China...
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US companies are now smart enough not to locate companies just to chase cheap labor. They've belatedly realized they need to invest in the locale and look for added value for the long term. That means access to raw materials, an educated work force, easy distribution of goods and a local market. The cheapest labor on the planet is in Haiti. No factories there to speak of. You know why? No source for raw materials and civil unrest completely cancels out the labor advantage. The labor pool is uneducated so there's no value added. Viet Nam, now there's a market waiting to be exploited. Fairly educated work force, decent exchange rate, lots of raw materials and easy distribution to all the markets that need what you have to sell. People who are afraid of China today just need to relax and wait a few years. It will take China a hundred years to get to where we were 20 years ago.
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And the Vietnamese speak French, the most civilized language in the world.
Or so the French claim!!!!!
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The crap will hit the fan sooner or later here. When Asian goods start climbing in price, you'll see inflation here start to climb--and steeply. Cheap Asian goods have been offseting higher service and energy costs here for a long time. You can't keep a lid on production costs over there forever, especially with environmental restrictions coming into play. And we are especially vulnerable with the weak dollar and a big budget deficit. We can't print money fast enough to pay for foreign oil and Asian imports.
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