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| (the shotguns) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland 
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				Rioja!
			 
			***** i just can't stick to one grape.  I REALLY wanted to go through some Pinot Noirs for a while and develop a good idea of what is out there.  Got two more in the wine fridge right now even.  However a few days ago i opened a Rioja (Marques De Caseres) and i think i'm off on a Spanish kick now  Great with steak btw.  Only problem is finding a decent selection locally.  I think the biggest shop in the area carries a grand total of 4 riojas. Very nice red meat friendly wine that isn't too serious (is that a way to describe wine?). 
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			Oh baby....the 1993-4 Marques De Caceres riojas were amazing. So tasty.  They are a solid wine house. I pick up a bottle or two every year to see what they are up to. 
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			there are two schools of riojas.  i like them both.  costco has been carrying lots of them lately. vist argentina. malbecs are a great tasty value. 
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			Glad you like Spanish wines. Next time try "Ribera del Duero". They are comparable to Riojas.
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			Rioja.  My secret weapon in wine.  I have never had a bottle of Rioja that I didn't like.  In my mind, they are consistently the best buy in inexpensive wine. The 'new' style in wine - big, bold fruit taste à la Parker - has gradually crept in over the last 20 years but the great tempranillo grape can do that well too. Ian 
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| (the shotguns) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland 
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			Neat stuff eh! There was at least one Ribera Del Duero at one of the wine shops i hit the other day; i will be sure to buy that next. Saw a few Malbecs as well. 
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			The Marques De Caseres i had was a Crianza btw; haven't tried the longer aged wines yet.
		 
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			Tasting notes from past riojas that I have enjoyed: 1997 RIOJA RESERVA Marqués de MurrietaIan 
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			Thank you for sharing those Ian.  Have you tried anything recent from Lan?
		 
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			No.  It seems to be a rare find in North America.  I have 2 bottles of their 2003 EDICION LIMITADA in my cellar.  I haven't tried it but Spectator called it one of their top 100 for 1996.  I'll probably try one in a couple of years. Riojas are just another reason why I love Spain. Hey Paco: When can I come visit? Ian 
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			Just read good stuff on cellartracker about the '04 Edicion Limitada.  I have half an idea that there was a bottle of Rioja marked down at the wine shop the other day and it MIGHT have been that..... Guess i'm getting lunch from somewhere near that store today! 
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			Not a Rioja, but . . . as a treat sometime, pick up a bottle of Mas La Plana from Bodegas Miguel Torres.  It is a Cabernet Sauvignon grown in the Penedès area of Catalunya, sw of Barcelona.  A roadside picture in the area:  Ian 
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Better than comparable, in many examples I'd argue a bit better.
		 
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			I don't know the first thing about wines, but I had some fantastic reds in Mallorca a couple of years ago- and I particularly like this one...  Cheers, Paul. 
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