Bill to Standardize CCW

[legion]

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2008/04/14/news/041508dcgunrecip.txt

WASHINGTON -- Americans with state-issued concealed weapons permits would be allowed to carry guns wherever they travel in the country under a bill introduced Monday by 3rd District Rep. John Boozman, R-Rogers.

The measure would eliminate a mishmash of concealed weapons regulations that vary from state to state, Boozman contends. All states would be forced to recognize concealed handgun permits from elsewhere.

Gun control advocates oppose the bill. They say that gun permit standards in some states are so weak that other jurisdictions deserve the right to refuse those license holders.

Boozman said the bill ensures Second Amendment rights.

"I've always felt like you can have a gun, openly display it, and there not be a problem," he said. That some states reject licensed permits from other states "infringes on the Constitution."
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Boozman's bill would require even Illinois and Wisconsin, which do not have right-to-carry laws, to recognize licenses issued in other states.

A bipartisan group of 33 House members are co-sponsors of the bill, Boozman said.

He acknowledged that it may be difficult to gain enough support for the legislation, and said there is anti-gun sentiment in the Democratic-led Congress. But he cited statistics that indicate crime decreases in states with concealed guns laws.

According to a study cited by the National Rifle Association, violent crime declined each year from 1977 to 1994 in jurisdictions where a concealed gun law was in effect.

Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said his organization is not anti-gun, but it opposes the bill because of its impact on states.

Since when has the Brady Campaign cared about states rights?

[Jim Richards]

Still waiting on gun ownership rights here in DC. Anything else just leaves me to live vicariously through you guys.

[legion]

Let's hope they are coming to you Jim.

[Rick Lee]

It's absolute folly to think that the anti-gun states would consider recognizing other states' CCW's, when they won't even trust their own voters with CCW's. Will never ever happen. Most realistic scenario is a fed. law that mandates reciprocity of CCW's between states that have CCW's. MA, NJ, NY and such would still always be off limits to CCW. At the moment, it's just a big tit-for-tat with the states who have CCW laws, but feel other states' requirements are either too lax or too strict and so they don't have reciprocity. It's pretty silly that SC and NV have CCW laws for their own citizens, but recognize almost no other states' CCW's.

[nostatic]

I thought this country was all about state's rights.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by nostatic

I thought this country was all about state's rights.

I was gonna say that too. But then someone would pull out the drivers license or marriage argument. Something about full faith and credit. I dunno.

[Seric]

I don't think carrying a gun open on your hip would be a good idea. All it takes is someone to come up from behind and take it from you...then shoot you with it. Let them guess who is packin' heat!

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Seric

I don't think carrying a gun open on your hip would be a good idea. All it takes is someone to come up from behind and take it from you...then shoot you with it. Let them guess who is packin' heat!

I've been carrying openly on the bike, but not often in public on foot.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I was gonna say that too. But then someone would pull out the drivers license or marriage argument. Something about full faith and credit. I dunno.

Yup; those are valid arguments. Some states' requirements for drivers' and marriage licenses are exceedingly lax by other states' standards. One could argue rather convincingly that drivers' and marriage license holders are a far greater threat than CCW holders...

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Wouldn't this be nice. . .

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

One could argue rather convincingly that drivers' and marriage license holders are a far greater threat than CCW holders...

Truer words were never written.

[id10t]

Of course, if this passes and states with non-resident licenses don't react fast enough, then others in states where they can't get 'em locally can get one from Florida, etc....

[greglepore]

Rick-with due respect, have you considered what falling on a firearm would do to your anatomy...

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by legion

Since when has the Brady Campaign cared about states rights?

Since when is the brady bunch "not anti-gun"?

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Rick-with due respect, have you considered what falling on a firearm would do to your anatomy...

Can't be worse then getting stabbed to death because he's unarmed...

[legion]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Rick-with due respect, have you considered what falling on a firearm would do to your anatomy...

Most modern firearms would not discharge in that situation. Some older guns and some cheap pieces of $h!t might, but those are not the kinds of things that any CCW holder would touch with a ten-foot pole.

[charleskieffner]

i cant wait for the day when i can go to any state and the law being reciprocal. makes for great driving vacations. was telling rick lee at my house sunday how g/friend and i last summer went thru 4 states that recognized az ccw ........................NICE!

this summer due to the inherent pesky grizzzly bear populations in idaho montana wyoming, i will be carrying concealed all the while im on a trail or in camp, my HK 12 gauge and hopefully my new ruger .480 alaskan.

that way the bears will not know if i am armed!

aint gonna become bear poo poo no way no how not never!

going to kalif. a week ago was SCAREY not being able to carry. goofy ass state!