Leia in a bikini (Return of Jedi) is still a scary image.

Look at the bright side, the enterprise could seperate the battle bridge from the rest of the ship, and the rest of the ship could slip away to safety while the battle bridge got blowed all up to bits.
At least half of it could get away unless one of them darned bounty hunters tracks it down, those guys piss me off.

LOL, she almost made Jaba look good.

Did you hear about what happened to the princess (Carrie) years after they made the movies? total nutz, bipolar, schitzoid whatever. I saw an interview of her and it reminded me of some old girlfriends, made me shiver and the hairs on my neck stand up.
Things that make you go BBBBBBBBBBBbbbbbb.

That's because he let him.

Personally it showed terrible alpha-male characteristics since a real alpha-male would eliminate competition with extreme prejiduce. Then again, we learn that Vader was a whiny little kid.

Kirk was just an oversexed space captain.

But in the end, the Force(tm) is > Phazers and Testosterone.

Kirk reminds me of Clinton.

Oh yes I did ;)

A bit of reading shows that the ISD does dwarf the Enterprise in every way. But after mulling this over, I think I see a way for the Kirk and the Enterprise to defeat the ISD.

The secret is the Enterprise's photon torpedos. A little research shows these are antimatter weapons as powerful as a 64 megaton nuclear warhead, and carry their own warp drive.

The Enterprise can fire photon torpedos while it is traveling at warp speed. The Star Destroyer, on the other hand, does not seem to fight from hyperspace - they always drop into normal space first.

So the Enterprise could make warp-speed passes by the Star Destroyer, firing photon torpedos which themselves travel at warp speed to hit the Star Destroyer.

I don't think the Star Destroyer can hit an Enterprise traveling at warp speed - not when its cannon frequently miss rebel fighters swooping around it at normal (sublight) speeds. After all, the Enterprise doesn't need to get close to the Star Destroyer - it should be able to fire photon torpedos from across the solar system.

Can the Enterprise's photon torpedos penetrate the Star Destroyer's shields? I think a 64 megaton blast, or repeated such blasts, should be able to do the trick.

I recall rebel fighters could score hits on the Star Destroyer's surface, even though the fighter's wimpy weapons didn't do enough damage to matter. I also recall the Star Destroyer needed to use cannon to blast big meteors, implying that its shields alone were vulnerable to meteor strikes.

I'm sure Mr. Spock would be able to figure this out.

There are many websites that discuss this.

Consensus seems to be star destroyer in a total rout.

lol

This seems quite relevant
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Tell your child it depends entirely on who is in command. Captain Kirk could take a 1953 Studebaker pickup truck up there and pulverize an ISD.

I'd point out here that Captain Kirk has yet to lose a battle of any kind, against any foe. Indeed, he is the only person ever to have solved/won the Kobayashi Maru simulation.

C'mon guys. Get real.

I think it was Romulan ale.
Kirk would have done the princess.
If the Enterprise can fend off the Borge Darth wouldn't have been an issue.

That's a good angle, John.

The ISD does have a formidable shield, but I don't know how the below heat dissipation spec in GWs would convert re its ability to absorb an explosion in mega/gigatons.

Quote from PDF provided by Alexander.

FWIW.

Best,

Kurt

+1

it depends entirely on your children. If boys, the answer is simple. Go to a KB Toys and buy a model of each. Spend some quality time with the boys building them. Then...........................they fight. At some point you can announce one is looking like it's starting to win based solely on physical condition. At this point, their imaginations and competitive nature take command of the situation and they start making up death rays, etc. that blow the other one to smithereens. Easy and fun. Telling them which one will win is terribly boring.

If girls? I have no idea. I'm hoping I'll have boys some day. I imagine parenting is tough, but god it's got to be fun too.:)

I think this is a tougher question than it first appears. While the ISD does seem to be far superior based on size and weaponry to the humble Enterprise one has to remember that the biggest is not always the best. Even in Star Wars own world the mighty Death Star was defeated by a single seater starfighter and a spot of 'The Force'.

There are countless examples of tiny being victorious over the mighty throughout history even here on earth. Look at the Audi R10 and the RS Spyder. While it would appear that the Audi is vastly superior on paper, the nimble little Porsche kicks it's butt with increasing frequency, much to our delight.

Maybe the Enterprise needs to take advantage and pull out all the stops while the ISD pits for fuel?

Hah! I found a conversion table. ISD is history.

http://online.unitconverterpro.com/conversion-tables/convert-group/energy.html

This analysis says that ISD shields can withstand no more than 5 x 10^14 joules and not less than 2 x 10^12 joules. (Based on asteroid impacts on Star Destroyers.)

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/isd.html#shields

1 photon torpedo = 64 megatons = 2.7 x 10^17 joules. So a photon torpedo should be powerful enough to penetrate the ISD's shields. Certainly repeated photon torpedo hits would kill a Star Destroyer.

I mean, this is antimatter we're talking about, and 64 megatons is 3X bigger than the most powerful hydrogen bomb the US has ever built.

Don't know about the 71 trillion gigawatt number. That's fantastically high, something like 100s of millions of megatons. In that case we should never seen ISD's damaged by asteroids, collisions with other ISDs, rebel weapons, or anything else - heck they should be able to ram their way through planets, and never bother firing anything.

Obviously Imperial propaganda designed to deter attacks.

I'll take a slice of pizza over a pancake anyday.......therefore the Star Destroyer gets my vote.

You decide.

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So here's a related question..How come the Star Wars folks have antigrav generators in everything (including speeders etc), but the Empire soldiers are in walkers and miniwalkers (for want of a better term) that can get beat up by ewok log-rolling?

Star Destroyers can't get out of their own way. Maybe they could beat up on a planet, but any kind of maneuverable craft is going to have their way with them. Kind of like the absence of battleships nowadays. Big + heavily armored + lots of people. Don't exist. Aircraft carriers much more able to project force and defend against a variety of attack types. A good guided missile cruiser will easily take out an Iowa class battlewagon.

Kirt cant beat the FORCE - come on thats stupid

With what? A mk 1 wishful thinking missile?

There aren't even any modern weapons designed to penetrate the kind of armor that an Iowa has (up to 18" thick hardened armored steel plate in some areas), nor to defeat it's massive internal compartmentalization. The russians have some missiles that were made with Iowa type targets in mind, but they're decades old now, they probably wouldn't even work. Modern anti-ship missiles are designed to take out the vessels of today, meaning guided missile cruisers and destroyers- which have extremely limited armor.

A modern cruiser would have it's way with an Iowa right up until it came time to sink it. Firing Harpoons or Exocets at an Iowa is akin to shooting at an elephant with a .38 special.

LOL. ;)