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TerryBPP 05-12-2008 10:06 AM

Hulk Hogans kid gets 8 months
 
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jWJrAKuprRhqXwDIXJJsCCMlmYawD90IF0V00

I pretty impressed with the legal system for giving this kid some time. There was fault on all parties involved but the other kid is already punished for life.

legion 05-12-2008 10:14 AM

Given that this situation happened, I can't fault the Bolleas handling of it.

And I was just as irresponsible a driver when I was 17. Thank God I never got into an accident.

cgarr 05-12-2008 10:25 AM

That will be around 4 months in jail, but its the probation thats going to do him in, He will never stay clean during that period at age 17

URY914 05-12-2008 10:41 AM

He got off WAY too easy.

KevinP73 05-12-2008 10:46 AM

It's probably fair to say "That sucks" but IMHO he earned it. His friend got a much longer sentence and he was just the passenger.

legion 05-12-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3937915)
He got off WAY too easy.

Hate to tell you, but this is what happens to most first-time offenders like this. Most never make this mistake again. Some (a small percentage) will be back repeatedly over the course of their lives. They will lose their license, and still get arrested for driving without a license.

TerryBPP 05-12-2008 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3937915)
He got off WAY too easy.

I think 3/4 of a year is a pretty good amount of time considering it was completely unintentional. In his defense he did tell the passenger to put his seat belt on but the passenger declined.

URY914 05-12-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryBPP (Post 3937943)
I think 3/4 of a year is a pretty good amount of time considering it was completely unintentional. In his defense he did tell the passenger to put his seat belt on but the passenger declined.

You're joking right? Because what he did is "unintentional"? WTF?
He was drinking.
He was speeding.
He was racing.
He caused his friend to spend the rest of his life as a cucumber.
He has multiple prior speeding tickets.

Unintentional? When does that matter? GMAFB

JeremyD 05-12-2008 11:06 AM

Nick should have never been driving with three tickets from 16-17 - two going over 100mph. His father showed poor judgement in; #1 letting him continue to drive. #2 Letting drive a 650hp Supra #3 still wearing that stupid bandana.

I'm guessing he will end up paying for that lapse of judgement in the civil suit.

On another note - it's sobering he he got jail time. He's 17 - John was in his early 20's. John on his own got into the car and decided on his own not to wear his seatbelt. There is not enough time to explain all the stupid things I did when I was 17.

It's a tragedy all the way around - Nick will live with that vision of his buddy as a veggie the rest of his life.

TerryBPP 05-12-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3937963)
You're joking right? Because what he did is "unintentional"? WTF?
He was drinking.
He was speeding.
He was racing.
He caused his friend to spend the rest of his life as a cucumber.
He has multiple prior speeding tickets.

Unintentional? When does that matter? GMAFB

My perspective is that this is less of a act than a manslaughter DUI hit and run and those bastards usually only get a year. When a drunk hits another car or pedestrian they are an unwilling party.

His passenger was willing in the car and willing not wearing a seatbelt.

Don't get me wrong. I agree the kid is a punk but how much time is enough? 5 yrs ? 10yrs. How do you justify a longer sentence?

...and WTF does GMAFB mean?

JavaBrewer 05-12-2008 11:32 AM

I think the jail time is sufficient and agree that a civil suit will probably follow. It was a tragic mistake - a mistake that most young men are lucky enough to have avoided at one point or another.

URY914 05-12-2008 11:36 AM

GMAFB=Give me a ******* break

Mule 05-12-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryBPP (Post 3937839)
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jWJrAKuprRhqXwDIXJJsCCMlmYawD90IF0V00

I pretty impressed with the legal system for giving this kid some time. There was fault on all parties involved but the other kid is already punished for life.

So his passenger that's a vegetable "already got his punishment?"

onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2008 11:49 AM

I vote fair punishment. 98% of us probably did things just as stupid. Fortunately I didn't have a turbo Supra to do it in. Horribly unfortunate all around.

TerryBPP 05-12-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3938033)
So his passenger that's a vegetable "already got his punishment?"

You can't add and rearrange words and then put them in quotations, lol.

What I said I meant with sadness not ill intent.

Mule 05-12-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryBPP (Post 3938063)
You can't add and rearrange words and then put them in quotations, lol.

What I said I meant with sadness not ill intent.

So his passenger that's a vegetable "is already punished for life?" So what should punishment be for riding in a car with a rich, spoiled, nimrod, wanna be racer?

There, a direct quote. Is that better?

legion 05-12-2008 12:33 PM

Does no one think that the guy wearing the seatbelt bears responsibility for his condition?

Come on, when he got into that car he knew exactly what was going to happen: they were going to cruise around and drive recklessly.

It's not like the son forced him into the car against his will, removed the seatbelts, and then intentionally crashed--yet that is how some of you treat the accident.

URY914 05-12-2008 12:40 PM

I don't think the passenger went for a ride and wanted to end up a veggie.

It is 80% Nick's fault and 20% John's.

asphaltgambler 05-12-2008 12:53 PM

Now we'll wait for the big $$$ civil suit from the other kids attorney for his injuries.........................better hide them assets Hulkster !!

Danny_Ocean 05-12-2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler (Post 3938170)
...better hide them assets Hulkster !!

Hmm...could be a reason for his divorce...if the wife takes 1/2, then the Hulk only has that much less to fork over in a civil judgment.

Regardless, he more than likely has a liability (umbrella) and/or homeowners policy that will pay the max and protect his assets...unless he is a dumbsheet.

m21sniper 05-12-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3937963)
You're joking right? Because what he did is "unintentional"? WTF?
He was drinking.
He was speeding.
He was racing.
He caused his friend to spend the rest of his life as a cucumber.
He has multiple prior speeding tickets.

Unintentional? When does that matter? GMAFB

And you don't speed in your porsche?

Get real.

m21sniper 05-12-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3938141)
I don't think the passenger went for a ride and wanted to end up a veggie.

He should have put more thought into the long term repercussions of his decisions.

Everyone should.

Not wearing the seatbelt in a 600HP car piloted by a 17yo is immensely stupid.

Plain and simple.

URY914 05-12-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3938294)
And you don't speed in your porsche?

Get real.

I don't speed in a 600hp Porsche.
I don't street race.
I don't drink and drive.
I don't let others ride w/o buckling up.
I don't have multiple tickets at 18 years old.

You get real.

This is the car:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1210640999.jpg

TerryBPP 05-12-2008 06:36 PM

looks like the impact was on the drivers side.

JeremyD 05-12-2008 06:41 PM

Im not sure I'd get in a 650hp car with a 17 year old driving.

m21sniper 05-12-2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3938630)
I don't speed in a 600hp Porsche.
I don't street race.
I don't drink and drive.
I don't let others ride w/o buckling up.
I don't have multiple tickets at 18 years old.

You get real.

SO IOW, yes, you speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 3938815)
Im not sure I'd get in a 650hp car with a 17 year old driving.

Oh, i'm more than not sure. No way in hell i'd get into it unless the kid was a racing prodigy of some sort. Even still, getting into it and not wearing a seat belt is an act so stupid that it boggles the mind anyone could be that dumb.

URY914 05-13-2008 04:24 AM

So what if I go over the speed limit? I don't go 100 mph on a city street.

BTW, we all speed. So do you.

onewhippedpuppy 05-13-2008 04:31 AM

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

So if you've never sped, never street raced, never driven recklessly, and never gone without a seatbelt, rant away. If you have, shut your hypocritical mouth. I'd bet that 99% of us have done something stupid in a car, and most of us got away with it. ESPECIALLY as a teenager. It was stupid all around, but the kid is going to JAIL.

berettafan 05-13-2008 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 3938815)
Im not sure I'd get in a 650hp car with a 17 year old driving.

i wouldn't get into ANY car with a 17yr old driving. there is not a more ignorant, dumb-assed, foolish creature walking this earth than a 17yr old boy.

adding a 600hp car to the mix is a mistake i hope other parents will take note of. particularly those who can't use 'money' as an excuse not to give jonny a vette or supra or whatever when he's that young.

if my son had mulitple tickets at 17 he'd be walking. (i HOPE i can live up to that statement when the time comes).

lastly, i am surely glad i was never given the opportunity to drive such a car at that age.

onewhippedpuppy 05-13-2008 05:29 AM

If I had a 600 HP Supra at 17, I wouldn't be here. I got in enough trouble in a '79 Chevy truck and a '87 Nissan 200SX.

legion 05-13-2008 05:37 AM

I remember cruising at 115 in my Plymouth Turismo in high school going up to Great America. (Well I think it was 115, the speedometer markings stopped at 85 but was pointing straight down.) I also used to take corners on two wheels in that car. I remember racing a friend from Naperville to Downer's Grove down 75th street through traffic. I remember dragracing the same friend in Bolingbrook (me in my Plymouth, him in his Jetta).

I'm pretty lucky to be alive.

onewhippedpuppy 05-13-2008 06:04 AM

I don't know how many times I hit the speed limiter (110) in my 240SX.
I totalled 4 cars in my first two years of driving.
I hit numerous stationary objects while driving too fast.
I used to do e-brake 180s in intersections.
I used to play car tag with friends.
I used to have fireworks wars while driving.

I remember before I was 18 and had a midnight curfew. On the weekends, typically a number of us would stay at someone's house. Normally with a few minutes to spare, we'd head towards wherever we planned to stay. This, of course, turned into a race. I still remember a long stretch of straight 4 lane city street (40 MPH). At the end of this long stretch was a 4-way stop. Typically, whoever touched their brakes at the 4 way stop lost the race home. Not much traffic at 12, but still stupid as hell.

Basically, I was a dumbass, and probably should be dead or in jail.

m21sniper 05-13-2008 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3939202)
So what if I go over the speed limit? I don't go 100 mph on a city street.

BTW, we all speed. So do you.

Yes, i definitely speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 3939207)
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

So if you've never sped, never street raced, never driven recklessly, and never gone without a seatbelt, rant away. If you have, shut your hypocritical mouth. I'd bet that 99% of us have done something stupid in a car, and most of us got away with it. ESPECIALLY as a teenager. It was stupid all around, but the kid is going to JAIL.

Precisely.

I am not going to rant and rave about the irresponsibility of some kid for doing what i've done many times, which is break the law for my own personal amusement.

Sure, i don't have a 600hp car, but i have had MANY "spirited drives" in my 325hp Porsche on public roads. I've just never crashed it. I once had a Philly cop tell me that he'd never seen a vehicle with more than 2 wheels travelling at the speed he saw me go by him. "You were a blur" i believe he told me. 140mph will give that effect.

URY914 05-13-2008 06:24 AM

Yes he is going to jail, but I don't think he is going for a long enough time.

This kid will be back in the news for doing something stupid. Just watch.

legion 05-13-2008 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 3939392)
Yes he is going to jail, but I don't think he is going for a long enough time.

This kid will be back in the news for doing something stupid. Just watch.

I disagree.

I think there is a good chance that this experience will change his life. Put him on the "straight and narrow" if you will. He certainly acted the part of being contrite during the trial. If that is the case, then the punishment is "just right".

If, however, he does something like this again, I have no problem with throwing the book at him. But I think everyone deserves a chance to learn from their mistakes. One chance.

onewhippedpuppy 05-13-2008 06:33 AM

He's spending time in jail and permanently disabled a friend. I doubt he'll just blow it off.

asphaltgambler 05-13-2008 06:37 AM

So I wonder if the Hulksters' divorce was calculated or really the result of his aledged cheating ?

Mule 05-13-2008 06:44 AM

I'm betting calculated.

How long before Brooke show up doing porn?

Hawktel 05-13-2008 06:55 AM

Dear Nick, Best wishes in the Slammer.

P.S. Don't drop the soap!

asphaltgambler 05-13-2008 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3939429)
I'm betting calculated.

How long before Brooke show up doing porn?


..................Uhhh.....the sooner the better please:D


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