What the Left Thinks America Should Be

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by Az911

Their in shape because they are poor and can't afford enough food to make them fat.

ever been to Asia? Not everyone there is fat, drunk and stupid just because they can "afford" it.

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2007/wang_adult_obesity.html

[Rob Channell]

Originally Posted by Seric

He also invented the AlGoreRhythm.

Ewww. That one was so bad it was good.

this one is probably worse.
Bill Clinton used to say AlGore (pronounced I'llGo'er).

[Az911]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Do you write for Hallmark?

Come on liberal Hallmark would never let sammyg2 work for them

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

You mean the left does any better a job of understanding the right?

What was that about guns and bitterness?

Sorry, I didn't notice the thread titled' "What the Right Thinks America Should Be".

[island911]

Originally Posted by nostatic

Healthy people stay out of the health care system. Technology keeps those with chronic conditions (some/many self-imposed) living longer and taxing the system.

You have that backwards. (or so recent studies have found) Healthy people use the health care system farrrr more than smokers, drinkers, fatties . . dare-devil motorcycle riders ...

Sammyg2 is right, those who live longer, use far more medical resources than those who play Russian rollett with various vices. ..or partially loaded guns.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by island911

or so recent studies have found)

you got a link to these studies? I'd be interested to read them because they fly in the face of the docs I've talked with.

[hardflex]

I'm sure they are on the Phillip Morris and Anheuser Bush Websites....

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by nostatic

you got a link to these studies? I'd be interested to read them because they fly in the face of the docs I've talked with.

Actually Glen is correct.

Longevity is a bigger drain on healthcare.

[pwd72s]

Food for thought...and trust me on this...the final decades aren't necessarily "golden years". Now I'm 65. Some days, I wish I'd doubled
my intake of marlboros, booze, and most importantly? Loose women!

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by nostatic

Healthy people stay out of the health care system. Technology keeps those with chronic conditions (some/many self-imposed) living longer and taxing the system.

Not once they get old. Then they start sucking down huge dollars.

Let's face it, increased lifespans create a lot of other problems.

[alf]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Food for thought...and trust me on this...the final decades aren't necessarily "golden years". Now I'm 65. Some days, I wish I'd doubled
my intake of marlboros, booze, and most importantly? Loose women!

It is not too late to start now. You know what the Chinese said...(lefty green plug) Best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, second best time is today.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by nostatic

you got a link to these studies? I'd be interested to read them because they fly in the face of the docs I've talked with.

I actually read up on this because it is counterintuitive.

The folks with bad habits die with a bit more alacrity and use less resources because they die so much youger. Sounds like utter BS. I can't recall where I saw it, something reputable, WSJ maybe?

[K. Roman]

So the right is also anti-health? You guys are f**kng nuts!

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by K. Roman

So the right is also anti-health? You guys are f**kng nuts!

whah

[island911]

counterintuitive..... Sounds like utter BS.

yep. And another factor is that people who are fat, or smokers, or heavy drinkers... are likely to avoid going to see a doc because they expect to get only lectures about the obvious. --not much help. Whereas seemingly fit people receive a more positive encounter (and more likely to perceive the doc as someone helpful --future visits likely) It's human nature, I suppose. --tough to want to help someone who seemingly has no interest in helping themselves. --like trying to help those here who refuse to learn anything if it comes from someone on the political right.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I actually read up on this because it is counterintuitive.

The folks with bad habits die with a bit more alacrity and use less resources because they die so much youger. Sounds like utter BS. I can't recall where I saw it, something reputable, WSJ maybe?

It realization started with a Phillip Morris funded study on behalf of the Czech Republic.

Philip Morris Funded Study of Smoking in the Czech Republic
stating that the Czech government had a net gain of $147.1 million from smoking 28nov00

http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/Philip-Morris-Czech-Study.htm

[island911]

Originally Posted by nostatic

you got a link to these studies? I'd be interested to read them because they fly in the face of the docs I've talked with.

Certainly some diseases lead to more life-time care than for some who lives w/o that disease. But, that is too simple of a model to apply across the board. --Are there any actuaries in the house?

[Mule]

Originally Posted by DaveE

Sorry, I didn't notice the thread titled' "What the Right Thinks America Should Be".

Thats because no leftie was smart enough to think of it but feel free to copy. Innovation has never been ya'lls strong suit.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by nostatic

avoiding heart disease and other chronic illnesses that cost society billions of dollars every year.

Yeah, we wouldn't want people actually exercising regularly, walking and riding a bike instead of driving their hummer to get a quart of milk. Americans have earned the right to drive whatever they damn well please.

hope I don't scrape the MickyD's drive through window with thing thing...

And they'd blow me to swap places!

[hardflex]

This thread explains a lot. I never made the connection before that killing people could be sound economic policy. Therefore, Environmental and Safety Standards should be opposed, Troops sent into battle without protective armor, etc. Death is a good thing, and should be encouraged by the Govt.

In fact we should start a preemptive 'WAR ON HEALTH' . Lower the drinking age to 16 and as soon as kids get their Driver's license they can get drunk too. Give them a free Crotch Rocket as a first vehicle. Repeal Motorcycle Helmet and Seat Belt laws. Make Cigarettes and Booze even more addicting. Encourage Suicide as a Patriotic Duty.

The only question is, how old should they be before we encourage death. I think we could encourage it starting and 40 and make it Mandatory at 50. Maybe a 'Soylent Green' type program. Eliminate all Govt. Health Care in one swoosh, after all, keeping people alive only means they will need Health Care somewhere down the road.

Any other ideas along those lines?