Canada to deport U.S. army deserter

[kach22i]

Canada to deport U.S. army deserter
May 21, 2008 12:36 PM
THE CANADIAN PRESS
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/428269

Ottawa has decided that an American soldier who fled the army over the Iraq war will not face the risk of abuse or mistreatment if returned to the U.S.

That means Corey Glass can now be deported to the United States, where he faces possible jail time for desertion.

Glass, of Fairmount, Ind., was a sergeant in military intelligence who spent five months in Iraq.

Based on what he saw and did there, he decided the war was illegal and decided he couldn't go back.

He spent seven months in hiding before seeking asylum in Canada, which he knew had been sympathetic to Vietnam draft dodgers.

Glass, who lives in Toronto, maintains that when he signed up for the U.S. National Guard, he thought he was joining a humanitarian organization.

Was he high when he signed up?

No asylum in this war?

Why not?

Not saying there should be, just asking why.

The only thing I can figure is Canada does not want to split hairs on whether a soldier fled because of Afghanistan or Iraq. Canada has a lot of people in Afghanistan doing a great job. The CBC can be very graphic and real - I'm thinking of a recent report on a medical support unit. I can't always take what they show going on over there. I wish our press was as honest with American viewers.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Maybe their table was next to the Red Cross, and he got confused? It really annoys me how we have people more than happy to take the large signing bonus, but then piss and moan when they are sent to Iraq. You don't get paid to drink beer one weekend per month, sorry.

[Rikao4]

he's a coward..nothing more.
Dishonorable discharge and bye..

Rika

[Rick Lee]

Why should there be asylum when there's no draft? I read the article on this guy last week and not a single argument was made as to why this war is "illegal". This guy served in Afghanistan too. Why doesn't he think that one's illegal? Both had Congressional authorization.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Both had Congressional authorization.

That does not automatically make it legal or moral, legal is in the eyes of a court, right?

He served in Afghanistan?

This makes it even more interesting.


His words......................
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=7766

"They told me I was signing up for the humanitarian branch of the service, where we would help during floods and natural disasters, things like that. The only way we would be activated is if there were troops on the ground in the States. That's what they led me to believe."

Under stress because he saw images and not the real thing?
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=7766

He said the images he saw were terrifying, although he declined to describe what he saw. Even after deserting, he said he would not reveal classified information.

This could get interesting. How many people get two weeks of leave because they saw images which stressed them out?

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on this one.

[MRM]

I think the difference is that he signed up voluntarily and then deserted, refusing to honor his committment to serve, even though there was no draft. That seems a liitel different than someone trying to avoid a draft in the first place.

[Racerbvd]

Hope they shoot the POS coward!!!

[Tobra]

When have we ever abused or mistreated a member of the armed forces? If you put them in Leavenworth or something for it, is that abuse?

This guy is full of crap. He signed up, and then when he did something besides camping a weekend a month, he bails.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Tobra

He signed up, and then when he did something besides camping a weekend a month, he bails.

Well, at some point he must have been doing something right.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/07/1060145783214.html

Glass reached the rank of sergeant after three years and was sent to California to join a military unit. He was in the state for two weeks before he was deployed to Iraq

A switch definitely flipped in this guy.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=7766

When he heard about other deserters in Canada, he contacted the War Resisters Support Campaign office in Toronto.

The war resisters' website lists nine other men who have fled to Canada, including Jeremy Hinzman, whose request for refugee status was turned down by the Immigration and Refugee Board. His case is now before the Federal Court of Appeal.

Nine is not a lot considering................

On the other point of "legal", one man's opinion here:

Iraq invasion violated international law: Blix
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/07/1060145783214.html
August 7, 2003 - 4:10PM

[MRM]

Katch, we've covered that issue before. There is an argument to be made that the US violated international law when it invaded Iraq. It's not an open and shut case, but there are reasonable minds that take that position. But under US law there is no debate. The US war in Iraq is not illegal under US law. That's the difference. The World Court and "international law" don'tt really have any jurisdiction over nations or individual citizens unless there is a special tribunal as in the Kosovo war crimes trials or the country agrees to be bound by one or the other. US law does have jurisdiction over its citizens. If there is a conflict the US citizen is called into account under US law.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by MRM

or the country agrees to be bound by one or the other.

Sounds kinky.

[MRM]

Well, the world court does usually meet in Sweden or the Netherlands. I've never been there but I've seen movies, I mean I've heard stories . . .

[djmcmath]

Reaching sergeant isn't necessarily a huge indication of doing anything right. I've known complete idiots who made sergeant, and I don't even have a particularly large sample population.

The bottom line is that this guy violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which he agreed to be bound by. In time of war, the UCMJ allows for the death penalty for deserters -- and it makes no concession for whether or not the soldier in question believed the war was legal or not.

The other side of the coin is that he's not facing hard time in Leavenworth, most likely. Chances are that he'll get less than a year, and will probably serve it out at a local brig instead of a full-fledged regional facility.

Dan

[Red Baron]

I'm sure it's all his Recruiter's fault.

Just another yellow belly worming his way out of his duty. How would you like a punk like that on patrol with you? Good riddence, he doesn't deserve the credit the uniform would bring to him.

He should have to pay back all of the tax payer dollars wasted on clothing, feeding and training his sorry ass.

[fintstone]

Too bad they don't shoot deserters any more.

[pwd72s]

Let's go back in time...to the late 60's. A guy I knew on the rally circuit here. He'd done TWO tours of 'Nam...USMC. But once home, thinking his tours were over, he married a woman with two children. He had a family then. Responsibilities. He told me if the USMC called up the reserves, he'd move to Canada. You know, I couldn't really blame the guy...

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Let's go back in time...to the late 60's. A guy I knew on the rally circuit here. He'd done TWO tours of 'Nam...USMC. But once home, thinking his tours were over, he married a woman with two children. He had a family then. Responsibilities. He told me if the USMC called up the reserves, he'd move to Canada. You know, I couldn't really blame the guy...

I couldn't blame him either, but that's nothing like this idiot's case.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Let's go back in time...to the late 60's. A guy I knew on the rally circuit here. He'd done TWO tours of 'Nam...USMC. But once home, thinking his tours were over, he married a woman with two children. He had a family then. Responsibilities. He told me if the USMC called up the reserves, he'd move to Canada. You know, I couldn't really blame the guy...

I bet you if they called, he would have gone.

[azasadny]

I must have missed the class during my time in the military that taught that each person in the military has the ability to determine if an action is "legal" or not, then act accordingly... i was there for the class that taught us to obey orders...

[notfarnow]

The deal is that you guys get this guy back, but you have to keep Celine Dion