a big part of what is wrong with society...

Because he wants the look of a high end watch but is to cheap pay for it.

I bought a fake Tag once, its looked kinda nice but it didnt last very long. I then bought an ESQ which in my opinion looks fine and has suffered through 10+ years of everyday wear and still looks good and keeps perfect time. Maybe one day Ill own a real Tag or Rolex but for right now I have other priorities.

I like the one Wayne posted, not really my style but its definatly cool.

That is what I do!

Also just picked up a Tissot that will probably out live me.

Cause if it gets scratched or ruined, i'm out good money. I guess i'm pretty rough on watches.

If a knockoff gets scratched or ruined, i'm out $30.00. Knock-offs tell time just fine, they work for me.

Exactly.

If it breaks, or when you scratch it, instead of a moment of trauma because you just ruined a pricey watch, it's a total non-event.

Yes, yes, i hear you captain "Green." I am deliberately wasteful just to piss off and frustrate the efforts of conservationists. ;)

So admit it, you like to impress someone with your fake, otherwise you would buy something just as good without the fake name.

Admit it, you are just flaming.

Troll.

If the guy that sells watches at my club sold seikos for $30.00 that looked 1/4 as good as the knock-offs he sells, sure, i'd buy one.

You want to sell me a seiko for $30.00, and deliver it too?

Wayne, IF you can find a new or like new one like the picture you should get it and then worry about the right time for your wife to give it too you. I looked for quite awhile and didn't see one for sale until AFTER I bought the other one. They are hard to find.

So Sniper pays $30 a pop for a watch, wears it for a year, then buys another. Someone else buys a $5k watch and wears it for 20 years. Fast forward 20 years. Sniper is out $600 the other guy is still out $5k. Sniper has $4400 he can then put towards the purchase of a hybrid vehicle.

Who is greener?

it isn't about numbers, it is about philosophy and intent. I find the increasingly "disposable" mentality of society to be disturbing.

There also is something about issues of representation and image but that is another topic. I find the whole subject of "replicas" to be a rather interesting sociological study.

Ah, but Dean is suggesting he get a $200 Seiko so theoretically Snipe would be out $400.

And yes I believe a Seiko can last 20 years... like this one from my collection.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211656886.jpg

BTW Snipe if you like wearing $30 knock offs I got no problem with that.... I think there are more important things in life than arguing about watches. ;)

To go along with that he could get a girl with fake lips, fake boobs, a Fiero Ferrari and be just perfect.

In 20 years the guy with the 5k watch still has something. Or his kid has something nice.
Or his X wife has something.

I understand your point, but I'm just saying that paying $30 for a knockoff vs $5k for the real thing doesn't make one greener or less of a consumerist. If you pay $30 for the watch and spend $1k on trees to plant then I would put you ahead of the guy that spent the $5k...

I personally spent $350 on my current watch which is a Rodania I got in Qatar. Great watch, have had it for 4 years now.

I found a 1980's Tag Heuer watch on ebay, the current bid is $76. So yes the guy has something worth about $100. Of course that's assuming this particular Monaco watch doesn't become some sort of collector's item. Of course then you would have to wear it sparingly or risk damaging it and ruining the value.

I don't have anything against people who buy expensive watches, but attacking Sniper for buying a $30 watch doesn't make sense either.

A date wanted to see "Speed Racer" of all things, and I noticed that the title character had on a Monaco - weird.

"I don't have anything against people who buy expensive watches, but attacking Sniper for buying a $30 watch doesn't make sense either."

It isn't buying the $30 watch, it is the idea of buying something and presenting it as something else, buying a fake is the problem. Buy a $30 Seiko.

Here is a Seiko I bought 40 years ago and it still works perfect. Automatic, got it at the PX in Danang. Probably not much more than $30. Maybe worth that today.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211658022.jpg

Good one! Problem is that with a good watch it will not go down in value. My first Rolex, a 1974 or so GMT master cost $275 in the PX. Its now worth in the $6000 region.

I have a couple of knockoff watches. Wear them overseas when in "difficult" areas so that if someone wants to rob me of my watch I simply give it to them. Its one thing to lose a $50 knockoff watch, but if someone was trying to steal one of the real versions that cost 10-20X more I might be tempted to have a "come to Jesus" talk with them about it.

BTW, one of my knockoff watches is over 12 years old and shows no sign of slowing down. Its also one of my favourite ones so they do not always die within a year...

And i don't. My watch is disposable, just like me.

People die and get replaced with new people every day. It's just the nature of life. ;)

Perhaps you could explain to myself and others what's wrong with disposable items. Like the M72 LAW rocket for instance. Works great, what's the problem? :-P

Hehe, agreed bro. :)

Seems to me you think that if you spend more money for something, you are somehow superior to those who don't. Or are you just more resentful? It seems to me like you're the one with the issues here, not me. :D

http://static.marktplaza.nl/images/1/71/4272471.jpg
This is a fierro. You saying you wouldn't drive it because it's fake? I would. And if asked what it was, i'd unashamedly say it was a kit car.

Why don't you follow the advice of your screenname, and Beygon. Hehe.

Back on topic the Tag Wayne posted is very cool IMHO

I need another watch like a hole in the head, I have a drawer of watches ranging form $30 to $400

I don't see me being able to afford or justify dropping a couple of grand on a watch but if I had another zero on the end of my paycheck I would have a nice 997 turbo in the driveway and one of these on my wrist.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211660472.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211660490.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211660507.jpg

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