out of tragedy comes some justice

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Mule

His name was Polanski. She turned him down!

Hilarious as always! The clever one speaks.

[Hawktel]

Well, I can't say I'm displeased. In fact, I think he got off lightly.

Looks open and shut to me.

[MichiganMat]

Meth is a powerful drug

[Superman]

Yeah, this guy might have been on meth. Yeah, the onlookers might have been old, wimpy guys. Yeah, it's easy to talk tough on our keyboards. But I do know one thing. No matter how large he was, no matter how strong, no matter how determined he was, he would have had to kill me in order to resume his assault on the child. I would not have been able to watch.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by speeder

Hilarious as always! The clever one speaks.

You're not still taking up for the child rapist huh?

[Mule]

Originally Posted by MichiganMat

Meth is a powerful drug

Post of the month?

[Mule]

Originally Posted by speeder

Exactly. I have a good friend who spent his formative years, (about 20 of them), in San Quentin. He is one of the more exceptional turn-around stories in history, successful actor, mentor to young gang members and criminals, great guy, etc... There is only one thing on earth that could or would send him back to SQ after 40 years of freedom, and that is if I pointed out someone who was abusing a child to him. His response would not be civilized. And he is a guy who would call 911 on any other crime.

That guy's life would not be worth a nickel, and torturing and murdering a baby in front of a crowd of witnesses does not leave many options for a defense lawyer.

Twenty formative years in San Quentin? What'd he go in about 10? Brilliant!

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by Mule

You're not still taking up for the child rapist huh?

He NEVER was "taking up for" a child rapist. He was voicing another point of view and you always knew that. But, that's the way you always take differing points of view. Its your schtick...you take them to the extreme. And referring to the content of that thread in another thread is also typical. Whatever dude.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

He NEVER was "taking up for" a child rapist. He was voicing another point of view and you always knew that. But, that's the way you always take differing points of view. Its your schtick...you take them to the extreme. And referring to the content of that thread in another thread is also typical. Whatever dude.

Extreme? Well, yeah, he gave the 13 yo girl champagne & quaaludes then raped her (+ anal) while she was passed out, but there's 2 sides to every story! That kind of extreme?

[speeder]

Where did I "take up" for Polanski in that thread? Maybe you can cross-post it here so everyone can see who's the ass hole.

[Mule]

It's more like you were hoping he was innocent so you could trash me. Do you really not know how to search for things on the net?

"I think that it's pretty clear what occurred between Polanski and the girl, and it's indefensible. Having said that, I have a question for Mule and sniper: Where can I find a link or citation to your claim that she was "ass-raped"? I've never read this anywhere, (other than on this thread). Can you provide a source?

Even if they only had "normal" sex, it was clearly wrong and inexcusable. But claiming anal rape takes it to a whole 'nother, (and considerably more evil), level. If your evidence that this occurred was the original charge of "sodomy", you are severely ignorant of the varied definitions of that term in U.S. law over the last century, and just dumb schits. If you have a real source for the anal rape claim, cough it up."

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Mule

Twenty formative years in San Quentin? What'd he go in about 10? Brilliant!

I had it wrong, more like 10 years in prison. (Including SQ). He entered the system as a juvenile, which is pretty common. He's been in 156 films according to IMDB, what have you accomplished in life?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001803/

[Vipergrün]

Yes, Meth is a powerful drug, Mule continues to prove that.....

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by on2wheels52

But I'm sure there'll be those deploring the use of 'excessive force'.

As my buddy Tex says, "there's people out there that need to be killed".
Jim

I deplore the use of excessive force. Not sure if anyone is in favor of excessive force. However, for those in favor, I hope they don't get beat up at their next traffic stop even though they'd be in favor of it. Based on initial reports of this horrible and sad case, it doesn't sound like excessive force was applied.

Once all the smoke clears, we might hear a more factual (different) version of what really transpired. It frequently happens that way.

Funny how people speculate as to what happened without knowing the facts. Let's try the sequential method first before criticizing, holding judgement and predicting the future.

That's why we have accepted a trial by jury method of criminal justice instead of wild-west, impromptu necktie parties.

Sherwood

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

It just sickens me to know that people like this live and breathe the same air as the rest of us.

Not anymore in this guys case.

He is where he belongs now...in the dirt for good.

[trekkor]

They updated the story:

Witnesses heard him state calmly that he had to 'get the demons out of him'.
The child was beaten beyond recognition.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/16/BAO911A396.DTL&tsp=1



KT

[speeder]

meth

[masraum]

From the link that KT posted.

Mota said Aguilar didn't stop beating the boy, or even appear concerned, when the Modesto police officer arrived in a helicopter that touched down in a cow pasture and ordered him to stop at gunpoint. When Aguilar raised his middle finger and resumed kicking the boy, Officer Jerry Ramar killed him with a single shot to the forehead, authorities said.

"He wasn't acting like a crazy person, running around or screaming," Mota said. "He said, 'I've just got to get the demons out of him.' He was very calm.' "

The boy was beaten beyond recognition.

[Tobra]

Back off on the Mule Aid buddy

This was on my local news, Turlock is just down the valley a bit

I am taking off a meth addict's toe tomorrow, no demons, aside from the meth and tobacco. Man needs to change his habits

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by BGCarrera32

PPOT, of course.

PPOT?


I hate reading stuff that bad. It's like watching the news; they never have a story with a happy ending.