Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 1.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Cars & Coffee Killer
 
legion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: State of Failure
Posts: 32,246
POS Craftsman Air Compressor

So I came home from work today and my 18-month-old air compressor was running. Weird.

I watched it awhile (about 10 minutes). It stayed at 140 PSI. I turned it off. I sprayed it down with soapy water, no bubbles. I drained it. I tried to refill it. Now, suddenly, it won't go above 30 psi.

Now I'm pissed, this is the second expensive tool from Sears that has broken in the last year.

POS Craftsman Floor Jack

I go to the store, they tell me that I can pay $30 to have them send the air compressor to a service center, then they will call me and tell me how much the repair will cost. I tell them that I want to know what it will cost up front, so that I can go buy a new (non-Craftsman) air compressor if need be.

I also tell them that I received no such offer for repair with my floor jack. "We don't repair floor jacks.", was the response I got.

I end up getting the department manager. I explain to him that I've spent $400 for a floor jack and an air compressor and both have failed after 18 months. No mention of the warranty period was given with either purchase, nor was I offered and extended warranty on either. I ask him what he will do for me about the floor jack. He shrugs and starts to give me an 800 number.

I ask him again what he will do for me. He stutters and asks me to call Craftsman.

I ask him again what HE will do for me. He just shrugs this time.

I say: "All I'm hearing is that you will not do anything for me."

He starts in about the one-year warranty on floor jacks. I interrupt him: "A floor jack should not fail after 18 months. Craftsman is promoted as a premium brand. You have done nothing to fix this problem."

"You can try to call..."

"I want YOU to take ownership of this problem. I will not tolerate being passed off to someone else again." (As it took three hand-offs before I talked to him.)

"I can't do that."

"I'm done here."

I'll go back on Monday and talk to the store manager. I have little hope of resolution. These guys are trained to pass problems off and hope they get lost in the bureaucracy. They have no interest in solving problems for customers.

I stopped buying Craftsman when my floor jack broke and was told I was SOL. Today, I called and canceled my Sears card (which I haven't used in years anyways).

If I do not get satisfaction on Monday, I will never set foot in a Sears again.

It's too bad really, my grandfather retired from there in 1989, when it was a much different company.

__________________
Some Porsches long ago...then a wankle...
5 liters of VVT fury now
-Chris

"There is freedom in risk, just as there is oppression in security."
Old 05-28-2008, 02:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Control Group
 
Tobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 53,469
Garage
sounds like you are in the same place I was last year when my new fridge stopped working before it was 3 months old, too bad, I like their hand tools, but a lot of their stuff is now made in China, just like Harbor Freight, without the discount price
__________________
She was the kindest person I ever met
Old 05-28-2008, 02:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Dog-faced pony soldier
 
Porsche-O-Phile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: A Rock Surrounded by a Whole lot of Water
Posts: 34,187
Garage
Made in China.

There ya' go.
__________________
A car, a 911, a motorbike and a few surfboards

Black Cars Matter
Old 05-28-2008, 02:27 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 18,162
Gave up on Craftsman years ago.

Cheap chinese made garbage. About 10 years ago, I took a small sander back to one of their stores. It was broken out of the box. The kid took it back, slapped a sales sticker on it, then put it on a clearance table. I pointed out that I returned it because it was broken. He could care less.

I have a Makita 2.6 Gallon compressor, and I am VERY happy with it. Model# MAC700. I run my trim nail gun off it, and does a great job.

The last 2 tools I have bought have been Milwaukee. My nail gun is Dewalt.
Old 05-28-2008, 02:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: N. Phoenix AZ USA
Posts: 28,943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile View Post
Made in China.

There ya' go.
Hey, as long as we know where its purchased and we keep buying with our wallet and not our brains, part of the blame rests with the consumer.

In the old days Sears would stand behind their products but it seems no more. I used to buy a lot from them but have backed away after seeing reports like this...
__________________
2013 Jag XF, 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins (the workhorse), 1992 Jaguar XJ S-3 V-12 VDP (one of only 100 examples made), 1969 Jaguar XJ (been in the family since new), 1985 911 Targa backdated to 1973 RS specs with a 3.6 shoehorned in the back, 1959 Austin Healey Sprite (former SCCA H-Prod), 1995 BMW R1100RSL, 1971 & '72 BMW R75/5 "Toaster," Ural Tourist w/sidecar, 1949 Aeronca Sedan / QB
Old 05-28-2008, 02:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Dan in Pasadena's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,209
Garage
legion, Jeff, I worked for Sears during highschool and college. ('70 to '76ish). In those days I sold paint, wallpaper and air compressors, spray equipment. People don't remember it much these days but then if you wanted paint? you went to Sears like many people go to Home Depot now. We sold HUGE quantities of paint and supplies on the Memorial, 4th and Labor Day weekends. Now in a Sears paint department? Crickets!

But I know for a fact that their stuff was good (though a bit overpriced) in those days. We sold DeVilbiss spray guns in the higher end lines and the Campbell Hausfeld stuff was domestically made then. I agree with you that a majority of their stuff is now made overseas...I don't really know if its in China and what does it matter if the quality is poor? Its too bad but to me, Sears is on a looonnng slide to the end. They got rid of their catalog operations which had been their mainstay for generations (does anyone else remember being excited to get the Christmas "wish book' catalog in the mail as a kid?), they let a then-upstart Home Depot take away their market share in a number of areas, hell they don't even have a candy counter anymore which I used to love. Craftsman really meant something in those days. Going to Sears was a family outing (which itself has gone the way of the dodo bird) much like going to the mall is now. But not anymore.

I don't support them anymore because I think they are just irrelevant and largely unable to compete. I wish they'd prove me wrong!
__________________
Dan in Pasadena
'76 911S Sahara Beige/Cork

Last edited by Dan in Pasadena; 05-28-2008 at 02:51 PM..
Old 05-28-2008, 02:45 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Occam's Razor
 
cmccuist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Lake Jackson, TX
Posts: 2,663
Those oil-less compressors will fail after awhile. You can buy the whole piston/sleeve assembly for about $40. That should get you back up and running again.

I bought a 5 HP Craftsman compressor at a yard sale the other day for $20. It was the vertical tank, 20 gallon. The owner said it stopped building pressure. I broke it down, bought the piston/sleeve kt - it even has the o-rings and got it running again pretty quickly.

You just need to take off the cover, unbolt the valve/reed assembly on the top and see what parts need to be replaced. You can type in the model number on the Sears web site and pick them up at the parts counter.
__________________
Craig
'82 930, '16 Ram, '17 F150
Old 05-28-2008, 04:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Indiana
Posts: 268
I remember the good old days for sears. Back then their craftsman tools was a premium brand. It is not worth a premium price anymore because the quailty is so bad.
Old 05-28-2008, 04:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Scott R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Aspen CO US
Posts: 16,054
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrecktech View Post
I remember the good old days for sears. Back then their craftsman tools was a premium brand. It is not worth a premium price anymore because the quailty is so bad.
I remember saying that about Snap-on until some of my replacement items of late have been china made junk. We all wanted lower prices, walmart and the others answered.
__________________
2021 Model Y
2005 Cayenne Turbo
2012 Panamera 4S
1980 911 SC
1999 996 Cab
Old 05-28-2008, 05:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Indiana
Posts: 268
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott R View Post
I remember saying that about Snap-on until some of my replacement items of late have been china made junk. We all wanted lower prices, walmart and the others answered.
I guess my complaint is it is hard to find quality in almost any brand. I don't care for throwaway tools. You get what you pay for.
Old 05-28-2008, 05:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Who is John Galt?
 
Rondinone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 638
Too bad, I've had great luck with Craftsman. Parts are much easier to get than with any other brand IMO.

Just wondering, why do you leave your compressor on?
__________________
'79 911sc Targa
'02 slk230 kompressor
'84 Tamiya Falcon

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
Old 05-28-2008, 05:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
notfarnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 5,472
I got the exact same response when I brought in my impact gun. I only used it half a dozen times, and then all of a sudden I can't even take lugnuts off with it. Nice.

I had it 13 months, and they wouldn't do ANYTHING for me. Never again

I agree with Joe, we need to be more discriminating as consumers. I thought I was paying a bit of a premium for a better tool... guess not. I hate junk tools.

I think there is a gap in the market now, for well-made reasonably priced tools. Absolutely no cheap junk, and everything with a good guarantee. I'd be willing to pay a premium for that. Sears seems to have abandonned this market in the "race to the bottom".
__________________
Jake Often wrong, but never in doubt.
'81 911 euro SC (bits & pieces)
'03 Carrera 4s
'97 LX450 / '85 LeCar / '88 Iltis
+ a whole bunch of boats

Last edited by notfarnow; 05-28-2008 at 05:25 PM..
Old 05-28-2008, 05:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Scott R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Aspen CO US
Posts: 16,054
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrecktech View Post
I guess my complaint is it is hard to find quality in almost any brand. I don't care for throwaway tools. You get what you pay for.
I hear yea, can't agree more.
__________________
2021 Model Y
2005 Cayenne Turbo
2012 Panamera 4S
1980 911 SC
1999 996 Cab
Old 05-28-2008, 05:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Zeke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Long Beach CA, the sewer by the sea.
Posts: 37,661
Only air compressors with a separate motor, belt and pump are worth buying. And they are much quieter. I don't run any of my compressors (5) to 140#.
Old 05-28-2008, 05:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Cars & Coffee Killer
 
legion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: State of Failure
Posts: 32,246
This particular model is designed to fill the tank to 150 psi, then shut off. I can't change or adjust that. I left the power on accidentally.
__________________
Some Porsches long ago...then a wankle...
5 liters of VVT fury now
-Chris

"There is freedom in risk, just as there is oppression in security."
Old 05-28-2008, 05:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
notfarnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 5,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by milt View Post
Only air compressors with a separate motor, belt and pump are worth buying. And they are much quieter. I don't run any of my compressors (5) to 140#.

Harbor Freight has one for under $300, sweet!

(kidding)
__________________
Jake Often wrong, but never in doubt.
'81 911 euro SC (bits & pieces)
'03 Carrera 4s
'97 LX450 / '85 LeCar / '88 Iltis
+ a whole bunch of boats
Old 05-28-2008, 05:32 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Scott R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Aspen CO US
Posts: 16,054
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by milt View Post
Only air compressors with a separate motor, belt and pump are worth buying. And they are much quieter. I don't run any of my compressors (5) to 140#.
Neither do I, have a 90 gallon Devilbiss it sits around 100, runs on 220 and is always reliable.
__________________
2021 Model Y
2005 Cayenne Turbo
2012 Panamera 4S
1980 911 SC
1999 996 Cab
Old 05-28-2008, 05:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
You do not have permissi
 
john70t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: midwest
Posts: 39,831
The most I usually run the Sears compressor to is 90psi, even though it will go to 175psi, drain the water out in cooler weather, and lube the air tools really well every other usage.
Seems to be working so far(fingers crossed).
__________________
Meanwhile other things are still happening.
Old 05-28-2008, 05:40 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Friend of Warren
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 16,484
I agree that Sears has gone down hill. However I did buy one of their 120 gallon oilless compressors about 10 years ago, have treated it like a cheap whore, and it is still going strong.
Old 05-28-2008, 05:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Navin Johnson
 
TimT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Wantagh, NY
Posts: 8,768
I bet one of the reed valves broke. This happened to my home compressor (sears craftsman) earlier this year. Same symptoms, wouldn't build more than 30-40 psi.

I got a new reed valve, gaskets and sleeve/piston for about $50.

Then again my compressor is over 10 years old so Im pretty satisfied...

__________________
Don't feed the trolls. Don't quote the trolls
http://www.southshoreperformanceny.com
'69 911 GT-5
'75 914 GT-3
and others
Old 05-28-2008, 06:26 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:44 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.