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scottmandue 07-05-2008 12:09 PM
LOL!

Is that George Harrison on the TV?

Mule 07-05-2008 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracing944 (Post 4042766)
My sister and brother-in-law were over yesterday with their four boys ages 11, 8, 6 and almost 3. The four boys are a very rough group always pounding on each other and generally suffer from a lack of direction and discipline. They are products of constant video game playing and TV watching. So yesterday the youngest boy was running around in the house getting in all sorts of trouble. He was up stairs even after telling him it was off limits. He ran under the electric fence and went into the horse pasture and was under the pony, he open the barn gate and almost let the horse out into the yard. We stopped the pony right before it left the barn. He again went under the fence to the pony even after I turned the electric fence on. He would constantly hit people with objects while laughing and throw things across the room. The 2 biggest things is he went to my outside screen door, opened it and grabbed it and pulled until the hydraulic dampener ripped right off the door. The second big item was he went to my wife's fathers old toy box from when he was a kid and pulled on the lid hard enough to rip the hinges right off.

The whole time my sister and brother-in-law do nothing. They just sit there and witness it happening. Now I am a fairly laid back guy but I spent the whole time just monitoring this little brats destruction and trying to prevent it from happening.

We are having a combined birthday party for my near 3 year old daughter and this near 3 year old brat. The party is next month and I am down right scared of the mass destruction this kid is going to cause. I do not wish to spend the hole time "babysitting" this kid but want to enjoy the party with our guests and my daughter.

I want to tell my sister she needs to watch her kids and the first thing broken and or spilled sends them packing. Now I understand spilling happens and if it is in the kitchen it's fine but all the kids know no food items are aloud outside the kitchen.

BTW these kids would "own" Jojo from Supernanny. They would make the poor lady cry.

What would you guys do?????

Speedy:)
Have the party at Chuck E Cheese. One guy I know has a kid so bad he almost tore the head off the rat. He got nicknamed Chuckie, after the doll, not the rat.

sammyg2 07-05-2008 01:05 PM
One of my son's friends was diagnosed as having ADHD by one of those poser-quacks, and his parents were dumb enough to buy into it. He's on medication but still a handful, no discipline, no manners, loudest kid I've ever met. yelled constantly, never shut up.

The first time he came over I explained that he couldn't act that way here. Evidently he didn't believe me so I sent him home and told him to come back when he learned to behave himself. A week later he came over and was good for a while, then started mis-behaving so I sent him home again with the same instructions. I have no problem raising my voice to remind him where the line is that he can't cross. I treat his the same as my son, which is how I was raised.
To make a long story longer he now behaves himself very well when over here. He keeps the noise down, doesn't throw things, and is respectful. He still acts like a little a$$ at home but not here. His older sister can't believe how he's a different kid when he gets here.
Maybe instead of a, excuse and a phony diagnosis and a prescription his parents should have given him some discipline. It looks like that's all he needs.

Bottom line is, if kids come to your house you need to able to give them discipline. If that isn't appropriate, then they need to stay away from your house. Let em act up up somewhere else but not at your place. If the kid's parents can't handle that then they need to find a new babysitter.

svandamme 07-05-2008 01:40 PM
get a lion... then whenever the kid is acting up... point towards where the lion is and say
"he's hungry... your just the right size for a snack...ask yourself.. do you feel lucky?"


nobody messes with a lion.

Danny_Ocean 07-05-2008 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 4043146)
get a lion... then whenever the kid is acting up... point towards where the lion is and say
"he's hungry... your just the right size for a snack...ask yourself.. do you feel lucky?"


nobody messes with a lion.
I like your thinking, but a lion might be a little extreme. How 'bout a vicious (but well-trained) dog? German Shepherd, Malanois, etc. When the kids come over the dog gets locked in the bathroom/bedroom where they can hear him barking, snarling and scratching at the door to get out. When the kids start acting up, all you have to do is go to the door restraining the dog, put your hand on the door-knob, and tell them to behave or you'll open it.

http://www.total-german-shepherd.com...narlingGSD.jpg

Gotta strike the Fear of God into the little miscreants.

Mule 07-05-2008 01:55 PM
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svandamme 07-05-2008 02:11 PM
Isis seems like fun to have around the house, i can only imagine what she does when she really get's PO at something...

i still think a lion is better though

Gogar 07-05-2008 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 4043022)
Byron, I don't think you're supposed to keep your scanner in the backyard man! Clean that puppy up. :p

Por_sha911 07-05-2008 03:59 PM
Contact your sis and give her a bill for the damaged items from the last rampage. Explain that she didn't discipline the little monster therefore she should be responsible for his actions. When she protests and claims she doesn't have the money... Say "Fine, then lets find a different spot for the party" If she suggests her place, wear your trans fluid change/digging in the garden clothes and burn them after the party. Finally, go hug your kid and tell them how proud you are of their manners.

pwd72s 07-05-2008 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 4042771)
Only one thing you can do: Never invite them again! You can speak with your Sis until you're blue in the face...ain't gonna change one damn thing. The little monsters aren't going to magically "behave" after a good talking to.

Tell your Sis they aren't invited and explain why. That's about all you can do...

I have booted more than one person from my shop when they let their brats run wild through my cars/bikes. New rule: No kids in the shop.
Bravo Danny! It's funny how kids quickly learn that it doesn't hurt their ears a bit if all mom & dad do is yell at them. As far as reasoning with them as if they were adults goes? Sure...right...NOT!

Jim Richards 07-05-2008 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracing944 (Post 4042766)
What would you guys do?????

Speedy:)
Tell the sister that you'll miss her as it's the last time they are invited to your house.

legion 07-05-2008 06:36 PM
Rich, you're a good guy. You don't like to overstep your bounds, which is why you have trouble dealing with other people who do. I can empathize with your frustration. We have a couple in our group of friends who are much the same and pay an equal amount of attention to their two kids (none).

We don't have gatherings at our house anymore because of these two monsters. The examples of their behavior are too numerous to list.

The thing is, you do need to say something to your sister. She probably won't do anything, but at least she'll know where you stand.

IIRC, isn't your sister lawsuit-happy too? Not a good combination with your mechanicals bits, farm animals, and your their total lack of attention to their children.

Being the @$$hole that I am, I would permanently disinvite them from your house. If you're not confrontational, that's fine. Make up an excuse, but keep them away.

I have a (ex-) friend who no amount of telling him why I don't want to associate with him in any way, shape, or form gets through to him. I simply stopped answering the phone when he calls. I've been doing this for three years, but it is easier than getting drawn into a debate and the associated guilt trip.

speedracing944 07-05-2008 07:37 PM
We are going to have a talk with my sister to let her know the dangers (and destruction) of her kids actions. I am going to insist she watch him like a hawk and if she doesn't big bad "Uncle Dickey" (as I am called) is going to enforce some corrective action. This talk will happen before the party.

Any problems at the party I will send them packing.

I will have to double check the electric fence to make sure it's hitting nice and hard and the bottom stand is electrified.

Yes this is the sister who is law suit happy. BTW we never did see action from when her older kid broke his arm on our swing set. Another example of her excellent parenting.

Speedy:)

kstar 07-05-2008 07:52 PM
Sometimes the young ones just need some re-education.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215316321.jpg

bobp53916 07-05-2008 08:20 PM
[QUOTE=Danny_Ocean;4042958] Perhaps more parents today should break out the belt/yardstick and get busy.QUOTE]

Ever hear of Child Abuse??? :rolleyes: I've lived in WI and guarantee if you used something like that as punishment you'd be sitting in a jail cell...

Danny_Ocean 07-05-2008 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bobp53916 (Post 4043688)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 4042958)
Perhaps more parents today should break out the belt/yardstick and get busy.
Ever hear of Child Abuse??? :rolleyes: I've lived in WI and guarantee if you used something like that as punishment you'd be sitting in a jail cell...

Hitting a kid on the ass with a belt or yardstick is child abuse?!? Wow...that means dear old Mom/Dad should be doing some hard time! Do you know what the statute of limitations is for child abuse? Mom/Dad are in their 80's. I figure a few years in the slammer will teach them a lesson for whacking me on the butt when I was being a terror.

I say....beat misbehaving kids like a rented mule, then chain them to a post in the basement. Jury would never convict...especially a jury of parents. They'd understand.

(Geez...yet another 944 owner...they must all be out to get me...)

Paul K 07-05-2008 08:54 PM
I think you should call this lady...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215320038.jpg

And make sure they're listening to the radio.

Good luck with it!

Paul.

slodave 07-05-2008 09:10 PM
Taser and some cattle prods.

Danny_Ocean 07-05-2008 09:20 PM
A cigarette burn to the back of the hand or neck is also effective.

Racerbvd 07-05-2008 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 4043714)
I think you should call this lady...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215320038.jpg


Paul.
Does she swallow???


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Byron, I don't think you're supposed to keep your scanner in the backyard man! Clean that puppy up.
Old picture, not the scanner. Was on the fridge for years
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

Shrink wrap keeps kids out of trouble too, just wrap then to a tree in the back yard:p


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