My dog killed my neighbors kitten. . . - Page 3

dzls rok · dzls rok's Garage

thats too bad about the kitten, but it's not the dogs fault. it's the fault of cat owners that let their cats run loose around the neighborhood pissing and crapping all over everyone elses yards. sometimes they go into the wrong yards and dont make it out. dogs will chase cats, unless they were brought up around cats.

cl8ton · 07-28-2008, 03:54 PM

Sad news Mike…all animals are precisous and this is not your fault. (2 dog & 4 cat owner here!)

Growing up (10 years old), I spent the night at a friends house and they had a large Chocolate Lab.

I set down with the family for dinner and their dog started scratching at the front screen door wanting
in, one of my friends sister gets up and lets the dog in.

He comes over to the dinner table and sits there like he is waiting for someone to whing some food his way.

Then all of a sudden he starts acting like he is going to puke, the father gets up and tries to race him to
the door to let him out, but midway between the dinner table and the front door he pukes up 2 baby kittens.

Dinner was off at that point and to this day I vividly remember it and have been a huge animal lover since then.

speeder · speeder's Garage

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

Terrible story. I hate to say it, but I think your dog has some training/control issues.

I think hiding behind "the dog was just doing what dogs do" is B.S. It's indicative of a dog that hasn't had the proper training to show restraint around other living things.

Nature isn't pretty sometimes - I get that, but the distinction is that with a pet you are deliberately taking an animal OUT of nature and into a human environment with our rules and expectations.

Not a good situation. Glad the neighbors are being forgiving. If it was one of my cats, I know I sure as hell wouldn't be.

Jesus Christ, what a tool.

It's a bummer story, but life isn't perfect. Sometimes bad stuff just happens. It's actually amazing that bad stuff doesn't happen more often, IMO. Animals are animals, no matter how much training they've had. You can see the disastrous results of people not understanding this all the time, from people treating dogs like teddy bears to cat worshipers, etc...

Chris Rock had a good take on this re: Siegfried and Roy and the tiger mauling.

"People say the tiger 'went crazy'. The tiger didn't 'go crazy', the tiger went tiger. The tiger went crazy when he was riding around on a unicycle w/ a nazi hat on."

Your dog does not have "control issues". It's a Golden Retriever, for pete's sake. Hell, you don't even know if it killed the kitten. Kitten might have died from licking anti-freeze off the ground, (or from some other cause), and your dog picked it up and carried it around a little. Stuff happens to outdoor cats. I just saw one that was a road pizza 30 minutes ago 6 blocks away while driving home. Someone lost a pet, it sucks. You're a good man for even feeling bad about it, some people wouldn't give a shake.

m21sniper · 10:46 PM

At least it wasnt' another story about a pit bull attacking a kid. Those are horrifying.

Eric Coffey · 07-28-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I think hiding behind "the dog was just doing what dogs do" is B.S. It's indicative of a dog that hasn't had the proper training to show restraint around other living things.

Soo, would you feel the same way if your domesticated, deliberately-taken-out-of-nature cat brought you a dead mouse/bird? Or is that different?

onewhippedpuppy · 07-29-2008, 04:53 AM

Animal. Say it with me....ANIMAL. They're not little people, they're not your kids. They are ANIMALS. You can't train them out of hundreds of years of instinct. Dogs kill small animals. So do cats. This is life.

Mule · 07-29-2008, 06:47 AM

My Pit Bull chased a bunny around the yard once and nicked it's ear before releasing it on command. Unfortunately the bunny committed hara kiri. After being chased, he was huffing & puffing. He tried to squeeze back through the fence while still huffing & got locked up in the fence & stroked.

Mule · 07-29-2008, 06:47 AM

My Pit Bull chased a bunny around the yard once and nicked it's ear before releasing it on command. Unfortunately the bunny committed hara kiri. After being chased, he was huffing & puffing. He tried to squeeze back through the fence while still huffing & got locked up in the fence & stroked.

speeder · speeder's Garage

Stuff happens.

Dan in Pasadena · Dan in Pasadena's Garage

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Originally Posted by dzls rok

... it's the fault of cat owners that let their cats run loose around the neighborhood pissing and crapping all over everyone elses yards. sometimes they go into the wrong yards and dont make it out.

So....cats are supposed to stay in their own yard? Ever try to train a cat do that? Or your opinion is that maybe ALL cats are supposed to be indoor cats...ALL of them? C'mon, who's being unrealistic now? Besides, cats hide their own poop. They dig and cover it, usually pretty well. Its dogs that take a massive one out in the middle of anyone's yard, not cats.

I think its been said before on this thread, Animals do what animals do. It is human arrogance to think we can entirely modify them into litttle humans without voices or opposable thumbs.

onewhippedpuppy · 07-29-2008, 08:30 AM

It is exceedingly annoying when PEOPLE bring their animals into your yard, and let them crap everywhere. There's a strange lady in our neighborhood that lets her two dogs crap where ever they want. You know the type, the dogs walk her, even if it's into the middle of someone else's yard. Never when I'm outside though, I'm waiting to catch her in the act. I have found a few "deposits" after the fact, not cool when your kids step in it.

m21sniper · 07-29-2008, 08:46 AM

You should deliver the nuggets back to her doorstep. Be sure to dump them out of the container you use to transport said nuggets to said doorstep.

rusnak · 07-29-2008, 09:17 AM

No disagreement here that animals do what animals do.

Who is the one with the big brain? Human. Who is the one who is supposedly responsible for the animal? Human.

Human say, keel kittun bad. Doggie over dere, kittun over here, no doogie keel kittun. Doggie take dump on lawn, human pick up dump. Human know doggie do whut doggie do, human predict animul behavyoor with beeg human brain. Doggie no drown in lake becuz human know, don't let doggie friend swim out to midul of lake. Accidunts happun, but smart human try not let happun then shrug and go, oops.

onewhippedpuppy · 07-29-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper

You should deliver the nuggets back to her doorstep. Be sure to dump them out of the container you use to transport said nuggets to said doorstep.

Personally I think it would be more fun to take a dump in her front yard, but that would probably land me in jail.

berettafan · 07-29-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

Terrible story. I hate to say it, but I think your dog has some training/control issues.

I think hiding behind "the dog was just doing what dogs do" is B.S. It's indicative of a dog that hasn't had the proper training to show restraint around other living things.

POP you gotta understand dogs are animals. How do you train a large dog to be gentle with kittens? It's enough of a challenge just trying to keep labs and goldens from eating birds before they retrieve them!

rusnak · 07-29-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Personally I think it would be more fun to take a dump in her front yard, but that would probably land me in jail.

doggie go poo outside cuz doggie hav small doggie brayne. human go poo outside, human hav small brane to.

onewhippedpuppy · 07-29-2008, 09:35 AM

human hulding dog leash hav smal brane too, human no when doggy poop

rusnak · 07-29-2008, 09:45 AM

yah, huh huh huh..

stomachmonkey · 07-29-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

....without voices or opposable thumbs.

I have a cat with opposable thumbs. Polydactyl, also known as a Hemmingway. Really freaky when they grab stuff and pick it up.

Eric 951 · 07-29-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

So....cats are supposed to stay in their own yard? Ever try to train a cat do that? Or your opinion is that maybe ALL cats are supposed to be indoor cats...ALL of them? C'mon, who's being unrealistic now? Besides, cats hide their own poop. They dig and cover it, usually pretty well. Its dogs that take a massive one out in the middle of anyone's yard, not cats.

I think its been said before on this thread, Animals do what animals do. It is human arrogance to think we can entirely modify them into litttle humans without voices or opposable thumbs.

Actually, I do expect cat owners to adhere to the same level of responsibility as dog owners. However, for some reason in my neighborhood, cat owners let their cats roam wild. I keep tabs on my dog when he is outside, making sure he doesn't leave the yard and I expect cat owners do the same--which they invariably don't.
They shouldn't be too upset when their "beloved" pet doesn't return home because it has been caught digging in the garbage of a neighbor one too many times and taken to the shelter.