Are you radical, irrational? The "Specific" ITAG Poll

[kstar]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

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I don't believe in a judeo Christian god, but I also think we humans are pretty primitive creatures. There is plenty left to discover in this universe of ours. I am sure that with time we will come to discover and understand forces that are beyond our comprehension today.

I agree. There's nothing that we know now that excludes a creator or creation committee that created the known universe and then stepped aside.

The poll provides an option for such folks who believe this.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by kstarnes

I agree. There's nothing that we know now that excludes a creator or creation committee that created the known universe and then stepped aside.

The poll provides an option for such folks who believe this.

Is there anything we now know that excludes a creator or creation committee that continues to act in the universe?

[kstar]

Originally Posted by nostatic

Is there anything we now know that excludes a creator or creation committee that continues to act in the universe?

Lack of evidence that rises up above the noise of simple chance or coincidence?

That's my opinion.

[nostatic]

so low signal/noise is the answer?

I'm not sure that I'd hang my hat on that one, but everyone is free to their interpretation of the data or lack thereof. In the science world one can point to many low signals later being able to be pulled out of the noise.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by nostatic

Is there anything we now know that excludes a creator or creation committee that continues to act in the universe?

Groups of men that squabble over religion. That's either a huge blunder (fire the god(s)) or there really is/are no god(s).

[kstar]

Originally Posted by nostatic

so low signal/noise is the answer?

I'm not sure that I'd hang my hat on that one, but everyone is free to their interpretation of the data or lack thereof. In the science world one can point to many low signals later being able to be pulled out of the noise.

I'm careful what I hang my hat on.

Chaos theory comes to mind re low signal/noise, IMO, so I agree with your statement.

I think you might agree that humans also tend to create causal relationships for non-causal events, i.e. seeing "god" in good things and dismissing "it" when bad things occur. edit: This human trait creates the illusion of a "signal".

2¢

Best,

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by kstarnes

I'm careful what I hang my hat on.

Chaos theory comes to mind re low signal/noise, IMO, so I agree with your statement.

I think you might agree that humans also tend to create causal relationships for non-causal events, i.e. seeing "god" in good things and dismissing "it" when bad things occur. edit: This human trait creates the illusion of a "signal".

2¢

Best,

Totally concur. Just want to sort out the parameters.

[JavaBrewer]

I was gonna score a touchdown until Jesus made me fumble...

[IROC]

Originally Posted by PorschePilot

Is there a God?

If the answer is no, the question is of little consequences

If the answerr is yes, the question is of infinite consequences

Which god are you talking about? Are you sure you've picked the right one and that you understand his requirements?