How much "change" do you really expect?

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by cmccuist

I'm not as pessimistic as all that Rick. There is an anti-incumbent wind blowing right about now.

There is ALWAYS an anti-incumbent wind. The problem is that about 90% of the public thinks their own Congressman is doing a great job, but that it's all the others who are messing things up. The incumbent re-election rate of the U.S. House makes the Soviet Politburo look competitive. If the Dems are about to increase their majorities in the House and Senate (and they are) after the stunning lack of accomplishment of the last two years, what can't they get away with?

[Mule]

Pros and Cons of Obama
Pros

Looks good on TV
Reads teleprompter effectively
Gets away with plagiarism ...lower writing costs
Chicago based ...good for air travel connections
Kerry confident Obama will inspire Egyptians, and Saudis
Raises boatloads of money from 25,000 corporate fat-cats
Mainstream Media-darling... easier to break election promises
Marxist Michelle will save our broken souls
Increases African-American Democrat support from 90% to 93%
Poet

Cons

Spectacularly underqualified ... (admits not ready)
Dishonest ...lies, lies, lies
Promise-breaker
Self-serving
Divisive
Delusional...Messiah complex?
Spineless...takes both sides of the issue
Elitist ...says mainstream Americans are "bitter"
Disturbing circle of influencers
Extreme policies

[Mule]

[cmccuist]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

There is ALWAYS an anti-incumbent wind. The problem is that about 90% of the public thinks their own Congressman is doing a great job, but that it's all the others who are messing things up.

Yea, you're right about that. However, there is a recent poll out (I can't seem to find it right now) that says that people are even dissatisfied with their own representatives. As you stated, that usually doesn't happen.

I'm looking for that poll.

[MichiganMat]

I expect Americas first CTO.

That alone is worth the price of admission.

[island911]

Originally Posted by MichiganMat

I expect Americas first CTO.

So then, Obama had you at "we can eliminate our need for drilling if we all properly inflate our tires."

[MichiganMat]

Originally Posted by island911

So then, Obama had you at "we can eliminate our need for drilling if we all properly inflate our tires."

He had me at "change"

[stevepaa]

I expect universal health care to pass. We'll give it a few years and see if it is better or not.

[Flatbutt1]

oh man I was hoping to retire in 6 years. guess that's not happening eh fellas? unless I go on welfare.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by stevepaa

I expect universal health care to pass. We'll give it a few years and see if it is better or not.

Good thing I'm still young and healthy.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by MichiganMat

He had me at "change"

Tell the truth. He had you at "uhhhh."

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

There is ALWAYS an anti-incumbent wind. The problem is that about 90% of the public thinks their own Congressman is doing a great job, but that it's all the others who are messing things up. The incumbent re-election rate of the U.S. House makes the Soviet Politburo look competitive.

That's what I was thinking when I started the thread. It's always the same...the people in power want to stay in power and only incremental change can/will be made.


You all outside the Beltway would be shocked at some of the internal business of the government. How bad the records really are. How poorly things work. It's a wonder anything gets accomplished. Look up the President's Management Agenda. Basic stuff, but too until the 2000's to get here? WTF?

[azasadny]

BAU (business as usual)

[MichiganMat]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

That's what I was thinking when I started the thread. It's always the same...the people in power want to stay in power and only incremental change can/will be made.


You all outside the Beltway would be shocked at some of the internal business of the government. How bad the records really are. How poorly things work. It's a wonder anything gets accomplished. Look up the President's Management Agenda. Basic stuff, but too until the 2000's to get here? WTF?

Makes you wonder why anyone would elect a party whose premise is that Govt. is the problem. What better tool to ensure the ruling of your party than to make the govt work as badly as possible. Heckava job Brownie!

[island911]

Barry with Pelosi Ought to work out great for government..

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

That's what I was thinking when I started the thread. It's always the same...the people in power want to stay in power and only incremental change can/will be made.


You all outside the Beltway would be shocked at some of the internal business of the government. How bad the records really are. How poorly things work. It's a wonder anything gets accomplished. Look up the President's Management Agenda. Basic stuff, but too until the 2000's to get here? WTF?

Sad but true...the amount of waste inside the beltway, expressed in both dollars and intellectual capital is astounding.

Term limits is the only real hope for change...everything else is proverbial lipstick on a pig.