Flooded again

[Rick V]

Well CNN is reporting that the leves in NO have been breached again. Well this sounds cold hearted but it pisses me off that more of my tax dollars are going to sent down there to clean and rebuild a city that is BELOW SEA LEVEL. When is enough going to be enough. It is beyond time to just cut the losses and let it become the marsh is was before we dumb humans decided we could out do Mother Nature.

[Tobra]

they need to do like they did at Galveston. Dredge the bay and put the material ina pile, make an island rather than a wall, well build a sea wall too, but you get the idea.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Do FEMA trailers float?

[Dantilla]

If the New Orleans area was raw land today, there is no way anybody would get a building permit for anything there.

Silly place to build a city.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by Rick V

Well CNN is reporting that the leves in NO have been breached again. Well this sounds cold hearted but it pisses me off that more of my tax dollars are going to sent down there to clean and rebuild a city that is BELOW SEA LEVEL. When is enough going to be enough. It is beyond time to just cut the losses and let it become the marsh is was before we dumb humans decided we could out do Mother Nature.

I think that the Army Corps of Engineers may suck.

[Red Baron]

It sounds more like stupidity than being "cold hearted""

The city is there for a reason and if Louisiana wasn't getting *****ed out of their oil and gas revenues, they'd build their own levees. If you were more concerned that your "tax dollars" were wasted in digging a canal (the MRGO) that the people living there said would cause this, you might have a clue. This City had natural protection that is being destroyed because of MRGO. And if you have a problem with your tax dollars going there, just imagine paying twice as much as you do now for gas every time you fill up, because that is what would happen if New Orleans is not or was not built right where it is.

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Dantilla

If the New Orleans area was raw land today, there is no way anybody would get a building permit for anything there.

Silly place to build a city.

The only thing silly is your lack of understanding as to why the city is built where it is.

[Jims5543]

Maybe the engineers from Amsterdam need to step in?

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

Maybe the engineers from Amsterdam need to step in?

It's ironic that New Orleans engineers first showed them how to keep water out and now we need them to show us. The shame is that the US Gov. continues to waste money to do it half assed rather than doing it right and protecting the all important area of New Orleans.

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

Maybe the engineers from Amsterdam need to step in?

Excellent idea!

I saw on the news this morning that a couple who had just moved back into their rebuilt house were being asked to evacuate. It is absolutely ridiculous that we rebuild in areas that are obviously unsafe for human habitation, especially, as Rick pointed out, as we're paying for it.

Get out, stay out.

[Red Baron]

It wasn't unsafe until the MRGO was built by the ACOE and it started deteriorating the outer wet lands that acted as speed bumps for storm surge.

[Dantilla]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

The only thing silly is your lack of understanding as to why the city is built where it is.

You are right. I'm out here on the West coast, and don't know why the city's location is so important. When I was there, I was baffled that anybody would live there. Your perspective helps, and is much appreciated.

[Rick V]

Well it seems that once again I am wrong, I guess I am just stupid as the Red Baron points out. (very smooth dude)
But the way I see it when you build anything in a flood plain and try and hold back water with a leve you are simply asking for trouble. It doesn't matter what was built, or by whom the fact of the matter is that it is wasted money to keep trying to fight the forces of nature, and water is the hardest part of it to contain. I guess I just kinda look at it from a diff prospective. I don't like lost causes, and I see this as one.
I guess I should have included the IMO phrase in my origional post.
I am so honered to have had the wealth of knowledge from Red Baron placed in front of me. I am now enlightened. Please excuse my ignorance, I will try in the future to not state an opinion, since I know it will ALWAYS be wrong.

[Danny_Ocean]

Levees haven't been breached. Water is lapping over the top, but there are none that have been breached.

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Rick V

Well it seems that once again I am wrong, I guess I am just stupid as the Red Baron points out. (very smooth dude)
But the way I see it when you build anything in a flood plain and try and hold back water with a leve you are simply asking for trouble. It doesn't matter what was built, or by whom the fact of the matter is that it is wasted money to keep trying to fight the forces of nature, and water is the hardest part of it to contain. I guess I just kinda look at it from a diff prospective. I don't like lost causes, and I see this as one.
I guess I should have included the IMO phrase in my origional post.
I am so honered to have had the wealth of knowledge from Red Baron placed in front of me. I am now enlightened. Please excuse my ignorance, I will try in the future to not state an opinion, since I know it will ALWAYS be wrong.

I gave up trying to educate and change a persons opinion on the internet a long time ago. If something is stuipid, I call it what it is. Does that mean I think you're stupid? In general no however on the subject, yes.

You might want to start by researching what the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (akaMRGO) has done in contributing to the situation you saw during Katrina. It was built against the will of the people and has damaged the wet lands beyond the repair Mother Nature provided before it was dug.

Notice where the water came in and when the levees started breaking because of it.

http://www.nola.com/katrina/graphics/flashflood.swf

Had your tax dollars been spent wisely by the Federal Controlled ACOE in building the levees corectlly in addition to heeding the warning from the "dumb cajun's" that said this would happen, Katrina would not even have been a major event for NOLA and you wouldn't be damning the city for it's existense.

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean

Levees haven't been breached. Water is lapping over the top, but there are none that have been breached.

That's a flood wall not a levee. They are totally different.

That 's not sexy enough for the media..they want you to think they are breached and that looting is rampant as well as babies being raped in the Superdome.

[jwhcars]

Point the finger wherever you want.... the bottom line is the fact that federal dollars now flow into try and fix a loosing situation.
I do not care where you are located but if the feds bail you out once the next time you should be on your own.

[Red Baron]

The same Federal dollars that were taken from the state are the one's fixing it.

[rouxroux]

Originally Posted by Rick V

Well CNN is reporting that the leves in NO have been breached again. Well this sounds cold hearted but it pisses me off that more of my tax dollars are going to sent down there to clean and rebuild a city that is BELOW SEA LEVEL. When is enough going to be enough. It is beyond time to just cut the losses and let it become the marsh is was before we dumb humans decided we could out do Mother Nature.

You 'da man! While we're at it, let's stop those firefighters the next time those wildfires burn California as well, OK?

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by rouxroux

you 'da Man! While We're At It, Let's Stop Those Firefighters The Next Time Those Wildfires Burn California As Well, Ok?

Lol!