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New ground hog wacker

Howa 1500 in .22-250. Of course this not my real gun but a factory photo. I will post pics tomorrow along with the A bolt I just restocked. Shot it today and for out of the box it shot nice tight groups about 1.5 or so. Looks like a keeper. Tomorrow if it stops raining I will see if I can send a few hogs to heaven. I dumped my CZ 550 POS.



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Old 09-09-2008, 06:48 PM
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That reminds me, I need a Ruger 10-22
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Why did you not like your CZ 550? I found one at a gun show that gave me the tingles in my spine, but I couldn't make the trade work for my Sig Pro. A few minutes later I scored a real nice Remington model 700 instead, which I love. but that CZ was gorgeous. I'm curious to hear what's wrong with them.
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Well.....beauty doesn't mean it's accurate. I bought a CZ 55FS full stock version with the Manlicher style wood. Beautiful gun. Even after I bedded it though with all that wood when it warmed up it got a mind of it's own. The first three shots were always in say a 2" group but then after that it could miss the paper all together or at the very least be all over the paper. As a short range brush gun it would have been fine. A good deer rifle in .243. But I don't hunt deer..soooo it was not a good choice for what I shoot which is targets and ground hogs at 200 yrds.or so. It sure was pretty though. This gun, although not as sexy, is more what I need to get what I want done. I HAVE heard good things about the CZ 550 American though in their defense. Mine was a situation of the wrong gun for the job.

Your 700 is pretty much the gold standard around here for deer, and rock solid. I would have gone with a big green myself if not for the fact I wanted a .22-250 which is a little hard to find these days for some reason. What cal. is yours?
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That reminds me, I need a Ruger 10-22
Looked Ruger .22-250's also but this was more gun for the same money.
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Mine is .30-06. What do you mean by bedding it through wood?
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You take the action out and acraglas the receiver and action so it does not move under shooting pressure. You use a release agent so you can remove it of course so it's not like welded to the stock. It takes all the "slop" out of the whole action and ties it all together as one. This article tells the story.
I love 30-06. Around here it's so prevalent you can like borrow it from your neighbor like a cup of sugar!

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/gunsmithing/bedding_0304/index.html
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That looks a lot like my Savage 93R. (In .17 HMR.)

My wife won't let me shoot rabbits.
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Hmmm. I don't know anything about that stuff, but my Remingon has a walnut stock. So maybe it's all set for a while.
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Actually a wood stock SHOULD be done. A lot more "give" to wood and because it is not injection molded the tolerances are not as exact.
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That looks a lot like my Savage 93R. (In .17 HMR.)

My wife won't let me shoot rabbits.
The action on this is the same as the Weatherby Vanguard. It just has a Boyds stock on it from the factory.
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I thought the article said that walnut stocks were stiffer, depending on the wood grain. At this point, I'd be happy to just get her sighted in at 100 yds. and reliaby do decent groups.
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Very nice. Just the ticket for thinning those crop munching hoards of fat little fuzz balls. The .22-250 is one of the all-time great calibers for this kind of work, that's for sure. What kind of glass did you hang on it?
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Very nice. Just the ticket for thinning those crop munching hoards of fat little fuzz balls. The .22-250 is one of the all-time great calibers for this kind of work, that's for sure. What kind of glass did you hang on it?
I hung a cheapo Tasco World class mil dot 6-24x42 on it. I have used them for a while and they have served me well. I just can't justify the $$ for a Leupold or Swarovski and the likes.
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I thought the article said that walnut stocks were stiffer, depending on the wood grain. At this point, I'd be happy to just get her sighted in at 100 yds. and reliaby do decent groups.
You may be having problems because it is not bedded. Your problem is a classic case for it. You have all the signs, unless of course you are old like me and can't hold the damn thing still anymore. I consider it S.O.P. when I get a new rifle. I will do the Howa also.

Here are some pics of the trio of death. Top is the Howa. middle is my Browning A Bolt in 25-06, and the bottom is my brother in laws Rem in 22-250. I restocked the Brwng and bob's Rem with unfinished stocks from Boydes. I tried to reproduce the Browning high gloss on it. However it's really glossy, too glossy, so I will take some rottenstone to it so you don't have to wear shades when you shoot it. You could signal aircraft with it the way it is now.






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wow. those are fantastic. i am not a big fan of the thumb hole stocks.

i am kinda rough on my rifles. walking and hiking the hillsides put them (and myself) through the ringer.

i had my ought six glass bedded, and the barrel free floated. it is a pre 64 winny. i should have probably left it alone. it shoots better, but maybe i damaged the resale value of my rifle. with my handloads, i can clover leaf three shot groups all day. now i just buy the ammo and shoot at things. i dont obsess.

my biggest rifle regret was to sell my ruger M77, in 22-250. that thing would reach out and touch a jackrabbit...hard. because of that rifle, i never miss on big game anymore.
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that is the divide between collectors and shooters. Collectors don't always know what shoots good and I'm a collector also so I speak from experience. I believe you did the right thing on your Mdl 70. The key words there are "it shoots better". Bottom line.

Yes selling the 77 was a mistake. ;-(
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Poor little ground hogs.
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So is this glass bedding totally DIY'able? My problem is that I have almost no bolt-action big rifle experience. I think I know how to hold it still. I'm excellent with all my handguns and .22 long guns. I have the elevation right on my Remington. But now matter what I do with windage, I'm always off to the right by a few inches at 100 yrd., less so at 50, but still off.
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It looks pretty nice. Do you mind if I ask how much you paid?

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