Some Days I Hate My Job

[Racerbvd]

Today is one of those days We get a letter from the IRS, one of our entertainers owes them money, and now they are going to garnish his wages
He is a good guy, a single dad with a special need child, so it isn't like he can work as much as others, but he is a great entertainer and an all around good guy. More of the government screwing the little guy.

[Oh Haha]

Sorry to hear about this, Byron. I had a crappy day as well but not in the same way.

Maybe your other entertainers could have a benefit to help him get caught up with the IRS?

[Jim Richards]

Do entertainers get paid without Federal income tax withholding?

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Do entertainers get paid without Federal income tax withholding?

W9s, contract labor. Different from band to band & place to place.

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Today is one of those days We get a letter from the IRS, one of our entertainers owes them money, and now they are going to garnish his wages
He is a good guy, a single dad with a special need child, so it isn't like he can work as much as others, but he is a great entertainer and an all around good guy. More of the government screwing the little guy.

The injustice. What are they going use? Parsley? Sprig of chives? Dont tell the inhuman b*stards are going use the twist of chile?

Perhaps, being such a great guy, he shoulnt pay tax. He should get the "good guy" exemption. Is that what you are saying?

The way i read it, if he paid his tax like you do and I do, he wouldnt be having a having a problem with the Tax Man. Would he?


Government screwing the little guy. Get a grip.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by stuartj

The injustice. What are they going use? Parsley? Sprig of chives? Dont tell the inhuman b*stards are going use the twist of chile?

Perhaps, being such a great guy, he shoulnt pay tax. He should get the "good guy" exemption. Is that what you are saying?

The way i read it, if he paid his tax like you do and I do, he wouldnt be having a having a problem with the Tax Man. Would he?


Government screwing the little guy. Get a grip.

Yes, this coming from the over seas liberal who defends terrorist. Ask any musician, or single father of a spacial need child what is like to make a living in that biz

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Yes, this coming from the over seas liberal who defends terrorist. Ask any musician, or single father of a spacial need child what is like to make a living in that biz

So should be exempted from paying his tax - tax on money that he has earned and is considered at law to be taxable income (otherwise he wouldnt have the tax problem, would he) - on the basis of:

-he is a good guy
-he is a struggling musician
-he is a single father
-he has a special needs child
-he is your bud

Which of these earns him a tax exemption, racer?

I have to pay my tax. You have to your tax. Most on this board meet their personal responsibilities- which includes paying their taxes in accordance with the law.

Why should this guy get an exemption. Sounds to me like your wanting help a "musician", an irresponsible single father to avoid tax and his personal responsibilies. Tell him to get a real job.

You sound pretty much like a liberal to me.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Yes, this coming from the over seas liberal who defends terrorist. Ask any musician, or single father of a spacial need child what is like to make a living in that biz

Hmm, I sympathize with him.

Saw on the news tonight a woman, single mother, works 10-10 to provide. Child got sick, she owes $200,000 in medical bills.

Are you suggesting that maybe the we should have social programs to help these people out?

[Racerbvd]

Fact is, he will be paying, the IRS & my CPA will make sure of that. He is one of these guys who just had a run of bad luck the last few years.

[stuartj]

Excellent work, comrade.

Your countrymen thank you in ensuring that this tax cheat is meeting his legal obligation.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by stuartj

Excellent work, comrade.

Your countrymen thank you in ensuring that this tax cheat is meeting his legal obligation.

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[jyl]

I'm a good guy and I have two kids. I think I'll stop paying my taxes too.

[Rick Lee]

Well, it doesn't mean you cheated on your taxes just because the IRS comes after you. I've had the state send me a letter saying I made a mistake and owed them another $200 or whatever. I don't think I made that mistake and I know I didn't intentionally do anything wrong. No biggie, I just mailed them a check. But when you make big money or have irregular income, you can find out long after the fact that you're in trouble with the IRS. Why do you think they tell you to keep your returns for three years? Not saying eveyone shouldn't be straight on their tax returns, but honest mistakes do get made. And the IRS makes their fair share of them too.

[stuartj]

Absolutely true. So if such a genuine mistake were to happen, and they do, does your Taxation Office in the US first provide any advice, warnings, demands, court judgements or like- or do they just move straight to garnishee before proviing any opporunity to correct a genuine mistake?

[Rick Lee]

I think it has to get pretty far before they garnishy your wages (Fletch reference).

However, our tax code is so ridiculous, that you can call the IRS for help, they can give you the wrong answer and you can be prosecuted for following their advice. The onus is ALWAYS on the taxpayer. It's the one area of our system where you're truly guilty until proven innocent.

[the]

This guy's name isn't Willy Nelson, is it?

[stuartj]

Yes, garnishee is usually the last resort…..So it seems fair to sugest he has had ample opportunity to pay the tax he owes.

Racer has indeed done a great service by handing this tax cheat in.

Musician. He probably has an arts degree from Berklee. Tell him to use a condom, cut his hair, stop using drugs, get a real job and and quit his whining. Racer you done good.

[Rick Lee]

Oh, there's a very long list of famous musicians who've had run ins with the IRS. I kinda feel for them, since they are paid from so many different sources, with income in many states and countries and are pretty far down the food chain after commissions are taken out of the original checks. Managers, lawyers, agents, everyone gets a cut before the musician ever sees dime one and he's supposed to keep track of it all. It's not a W2 kind of job. I remember the Rolling Stones canceling the UK leg of a tour until after the change of the calendar year because of a $17 million tax liability had they played there on the wrong day.

[KevinG]

"The way i read it, if he paid his tax like you do and I do, he wouldnt be having a having a problem with the Tax Man. Would he? "

I don't know the details, but this looks like a typical case of "contractor" vs. "employee".

Back in '92, I knew a self-employed contractor who busted a butt trying to get work when very little was to be had. Made around $14,500 gross and netted less than $7,000. Exemptions and standard deductions were more than enough to knock his taxable income to $0, so no taxes, right?

Wrong - he had to pay 15+% for self employment tax on the net business income, and he couldn't afford it. It ended up in court, where he lost and had to sell some of his equipment to pay the tax + penalties + interest.

[stuartj]

It doesn’t matter why he owes tax. The point is he owes tax. And he clearly hasn’t taken any opportunity afforded him to meet or make good on his legal commitment, so the Tax Man has slapped a garnishee on him.

This is seen by racer as the Gubmint bashing the little guy.

I wonder- would Racer be happy to pay more tax to make up for the tax his buddie doesnt pay ( on account of him being a good guy n’all?) Better- racer could just all the guys tax- he seems to think it OK for the rest of the tax base to pay it, afterall.