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I live in the foothills of the San Gabriel Valley (Los Angeles County) and apparently Coyote activity and"negative Coyote/human interactions" are on a sudden increase in our area. I watched two Coyotes stalk a man and his large dog the other night from a distance of about 7 yards. They were undaunted when the man tried to "shoo them off". It was kind of erie!

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Certain types of animals NEED to develop a fear of man...or they become a problem. This is why I think the ban of hunting cougars with dogs is stupid...
The day will come in Oregon when a human child will be killed by a Cougar...bank on it.
A cyclist - or maybe it was a runner - was attacked and killed by a cougar in Orange County, CA. last year. And I believe they sent authorities (Fish and Game?) to track and dispose of it.
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I read an article in the Los Ageles Times a few years ago. It was about an agency (Fish and Game?) that was tracking Mountain Lions (Cougars) in the Santa Monica Mountains via electronic collars. The article noted that several Mountain Lions were regularly in and around people's property, but had never attacked an animal or human. The article stated that these property owners would likely be shocked if they knew how frequently these animals were in their backyards.

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I've been checked out (although not chased) by one on my mountain bike before. Interesting experience.

I hear they're good eatin'.
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I live in the foothills of the San Gabriel Valley (Los Angeles County) and apparently Coyote activity and"negative Coyote/human interactions" are on a sudden increase in our area. I watched two Coyotes stalk a man and his large dog the other night from a distance of about 7 yards. They were undaunted when the man tried to "shoo them off". It was kind of erie!

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I saw one coyote tracking two college girls and their two dogs about a month ago at night. How many others were hidden in the bushes waiting for their chance to attack? The one that was visible was the decoy. Yes, eerie.
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Um...if you have coyotes chasing you...you have a problem...coyotes are skittish as all hell, and if one charges you, it needs to be killed. Without a doubt.

I hunt them with a bow and large-ish knife. It's definitely a rush when they come in, although I don't think scared is the right word for it. Then again, I haven't had one run at me yet I suspect that will be a puckering experience. And I hope also that my archery skills hold true and I don't end up on the loosing end of that battle. Unfortunately, I've yet to get one in close enough for a shot; I can hammer a McKenzie 'yote all day long at 40 yards, but there's a world of difference between the archery range and the field. I'm looking for 15-20 yards, and stopped, either broadside or quartering away. Of course, it's also very unfortunate when you don't take a shot, or you get busted, because as many of you have attested to, these are smart animals. If you call them in and they bust you or you don't shoot them, you've just educated them and your chances of getting him again are greatly diminished. I haven't been out for 'yotes in awhile..maybe that'll be my winter project.
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Um...if you have coyotes chasing you...you have a problem...coyotes are skittish as all hell, and if one charges you, it needs to be killed. Without a doubt.

I hunt them with a bow and large-ish knife. It's definitely a rush when they come in, although I don't think scared is the right word for it. Then again, I haven't had one run at me yet I suspect that will be a puckering experience. And I hope also that my archery skills hold true and I don't end up on the loosing end of that battle. Unfortunately, I've yet to get one in close enough for a shot; I can hammer a McKenzie 'yote all day long at 40 yards, but there's a world of difference between the archery range and the field. I'm looking for 15-20 yards, and stopped, either broadside or quartering away. Of course, it's also very unfortunate when you don't take a shot, or you get busted, because as many of you have attested to, these are smart animals. If you call them in and they bust you or you don't shoot them, you've just educated them and your chances of getting him again are greatly diminished. I haven't been out for 'yotes in awhile..maybe that'll be my winter project.
Because of documented cougar attacks (luckily nobody has died yet) Oregon now allows bow hunters to carry a self defense handgun. Perhaps it's the same in your neck of the woods?
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Yup, I aint killin anithin I kante eet. Usein the feer fer warmth n such. Just aint write to b killin critters fer no daggum reezin atal.
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Fortunately we have a crazed guard dog to protect us from wild animals.
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Wow, Rich! Cool pic! Although, in my backyard, he'da had 375 grains of Carbon eXpress 200 through him in short order
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Don't see as many coyotes in my area as I used (except in the low desert areas). For some reason coyotes and wolves don't get along. The bear, cat, deer and elk population has gone down in most areas as well...not sure why.

Unless its because of those "harmless" little wolves that so many people think are so cute.
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For some reason coyotes and wolves don't get along. The bear, cat, deer and elk population has gone down in most areas as well...not sure why. Unless its because of those "harmless" little wolves that so many people think are so cute.
And what's wrong with that? isn't that why they are on this earth? To keep those populations down?
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And what's wrong with that? isn't that why they are on this earth? To keep those populations down?
Umm.. sure, as long as you don't factor in humans, and cattle, and a balanced ecosystem.

Maybe you haven't heard, these wolves were not native to these parts.

Unless you've seen them you wont understand.
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You'd run out of ammo before you got everything around here.

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Biggest bear I've ever seen in real life, just getting ready to bolt after seeing us on the upper deck. She's about 4 acres away and that's just the head. I say "her" because our neighbor ID'd it a few days prior when he saw her crossing the street in front of his house.


No picture of the cougar, it was gone in the wink of an eye.
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That sounds like the perfect solution to me.

On a side note: IDFG did take full advantage of the VERY brief delisting of the critters and was able to eliminate several packs. They will be missed I'm sure.
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I spent my 15th summer on a cattle ranch in Northen Cal...near a town called Adin.
The owner had a dog that loved killing coyotes...a Russian Wolfhound and Greyhound mix. Coyote spotted, he'd jump from the back of a moving jeep in order to catch one...it was amazing to watch the distance between this dog and a Coyote shrink. The dog would bowl the coyote over with contact, go for the throat, then 2 shakes of his head, it would be all over.

My single shot .22 took a few coyotes that summer. Don't think I was ever stalked by one. In cattle country, Coyotes have a fear of man...for good reason.


And I thought my great dane was the only one with a taste for coyotes. My male, Domino, RIP was 42 inches at the shoulder and 195lbs. of pure pussy cat. He also had an absolute "thing" for coyotes. He would usually just bite them on the back of the neck breaking it.

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