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ramonesfreak 12-18-2008 09:49 AM

Ruger Mark III questions
 
Im curious about how people feel about this gun. I do not yet have my pistol permit but am in the process of doing the paperwork.

I have never used a hand gun, only 22 caliber rifles and shotguns.

I LOVE this Ruger on a purely aesthetic basis. I just think it looks beautiful and functional and the price is right.

MARKIII4

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=10104&return=Y

My primary purpose of getting the hand gun is for target shooting at the range.

In the off chance that my home is invaded, ill certainly use it for protection. Im not a hunter and dont care about how it functions in that scenario and ill never walk around with it unless im camping or perhaps a long motorcycle trip

Im attracted to the 4 3/4" barrell. The Mark6 appears to be the same gun but with a 6 inch barrell

Am I being foolish in not considering the longer barrell?

And overall, what are your thougths on this gun? reliable, cleaning, performance, feel, quality of construction, accuracy etc...

Thanks

Jim Bremner 12-18-2008 09:54 AM

it's a fine pistol

bourgeois911 12-18-2008 09:59 AM

Reliable as hell, obviously the longer barrel will be more accurate. The S&W A22 is also in the same class as this pistol and possibly is a little cheaper. Both of them are well built and economical to use at the range.

mgatepi 12-18-2008 10:17 AM

I have the 22/45. It is a beautiful pistol, however it has had a couple of problems with clip locating the round correctly....not a big deal but it is a little annoying. I have recently spent some time cleaning it, eventhough it is a new gun with only about 100 rds through it, so hopefully this will take care of the problem. Paid $479....I think

Rot 911 12-18-2008 10:34 AM

The Ruger Mark III is an excellent pistol!

aston@ultrasw.c 12-18-2008 10:50 AM

If you are not going to carry it, consider the 6" Much improved accuracy due to the longer sight radius (very little to do with ballistics of the actual round)

MT930 12-18-2008 10:55 AM

I have the Competition version. It's very sweet ! Used it for indoor pistol league. It's the only way to go. I like the balance with the heavy bull barrel. it's very popular with the league shooters. Get the longer bull barrel. You will be very happy with it.


22 rim fire is a very poor choice for home defense.

Unless squirrels are breaking in. ;)

GaryR 12-18-2008 11:08 AM

I used to have the bull barrel version of that pistol.. the P512. We used to buy a brick of ammo and run through the whole thing in one day. :D

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/images/Products/263T.jpg

Ernesto 911 12-18-2008 01:03 PM

22 rim fire is a very poor choice for home defense.

Unless squirrels are breaking in. ;)[/QUOTE]

+1...It's fine for economical target practice.
Protection is different matter altogether.

rouxroux 12-18-2008 01:06 PM

It's a nice little piece. However, I prefer a Mark II zooted out with parts from Clarks custom Guns. Check 'em out...:)

ramonesfreak 12-18-2008 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernesto 911 (Post 4367817)
22 rim fire is a very poor choice for home defense.

Unless squirrels are breaking in. ;)

+1...It's fine for economical target practice.
Protection is different matter altogether.

Target shooting, perhaps a league eventually, is my priority with this gun. Learning how to operate and clean, dissasemble etc.....

Im positive it will not be my one and only handgun and my next will be chosen based on personal protection needs perhaps. Although, there are no grizzly bears where i live and a .22 to the human head is sure to kill an intruder. i suppose for home protection my default choice would be a shotgun

ramonesfreak 12-18-2008 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rouxroux (Post 4367822)
It's a nice little piece. However, I prefer a Mark II zooted out with parts from Clarks custom Guns. Check 'em out...:)

ill take a look... why the mark II, more simple design?

PorscheGAL 12-18-2008 01:32 PM

I am not sure about the range you plan on going to but all the ones I have ever shot at have loaner handguns. You can try out different ones before choosing one. Maybe worth a try if you have never shot before.

on2wheels52 12-18-2008 03:55 PM

I think the plastic loaded chamber indicator on the III's is a little cheesy, a few other minor changes from the II. I can think of better home defense guns but you have to start somewhere.
Jim

chasr1 12-18-2008 04:09 PM

Mk ii
 
I've got a MK II with the target barrel. I love the gun and shoot it all day for about $10. Very accurate even out to the 50yd range. Tearing the gun down is easy, getting it back with the locking mechanism in the handle is a different story.

Chas

charleskieffner 12-18-2008 04:40 PM

bought the 22/45 stainless fluted barrel. slapped 200 rds thru it. took to nelson ford "the gunsmith" he took it apart. he found nothing wrong and nothing he could improve. said "go shot the poo outta it and bring it back in if anything goes wrong."

slapped bushnell red dot scope on it. dialed it in with another 200 rds of crap ammo.

hits everything i aim at every single time.

everybody that shoots needs juan of these. great incredible practice and bottomline...................

CHEAP TO SHOOT AND IDIOT PROOFED!

if i shot my 9mm, my .45's, my .44 mag like i do the ruger 22/45............id be living on skid row looking for a bottle of t-bird and pushing a grocery cart with martini rossi stickers on it for the rest of my life because i was so broke!

charleskieffner 12-18-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernesto 911 (Post 4367817)
22 rim fire is a very poor choice for home defense.

Unless squirrels are breaking in. ;)

+1...It's fine for economical target practice.
Protection is different matter altogether.[/QUOTE]


yeah sure............tell ronald reagan and brady that!!!!!!!

m21sniper 12-18-2008 05:10 PM

I would NEVER recommend a rim-fire for self defense or carry. Rim-fire misfires are quite common. That reason alone TOTALLY eliminates them from consideration in any kind of defense role.

legion 12-18-2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasr1 (Post 4368132)
I've got a MK II with the target barrel. I love the gun and shoot it all day for about $10. Very accurate even out to the 50yd range. Tearing the gun down is easy, getting it back with the locking mechanism in the handle is a different story.

Chas

+1,000

I have the exact same model and I have to consult the manual for reassembly every time.

I prefer the Mark II over the Mark III. Yes, the magazine release is weird.

charleskieffner 12-18-2008 05:22 PM

i didnt say i carry one CCW.

i stated how well they work. considering i have had a 10/22 since i had to shave and im freeking 51 now, i kind of know how to make them werk all the time. i now own 2 10/22's with .920 taget barrels, 1 from ruger stainless and the other i built.

so with the 22/45 thats 3 of them.

and should zombees invade my camp or home..................well we'll see if thats all i have the moment they strike...............WHO WALKS AWAY!

come on man............everyjuan knows you shoot ZOMBEES IN DA HEAD!

CCI STINGERS! 50 of them! at a time! poor stupid zombees!

Jeff Higgins 12-18-2008 05:25 PM

Certainly one of the best .22 auto loading handguns of all time, you cannot go wrong with any version of the little Ruger. This thing is going down as one of the greatest firearms designs of all time. There are many versions to choose from; find the one you like and go for it. You will never regret it.

Not to be argumentative with some of these guys, but longer barrels are not more accurate. The longer sight radius provides an advantage, but the difference there between the 4 1/2" and 6" is all but moot. The most noticeable difference a longer barrel makes is in the balance and feel of the gun. It will shift the balance forward, making the gun muzzle heavy. Some shooters prefer that, some shooters do not. Some will shoot better with a muzzle heavy gun, some will shoot better with one balanced a bit further back. It's a very personal thing, and one that will make a bigger difference in your shooting than the sight radius will. So, if you can handle a few different examples, try to do that before making your choice.

A .22 for home defense? Why not? I know a few seasoned shooters who will keep one loaded around the house. Face it, no one wants to get shot by anything, even if it is "just" a .22. And - here's the kicker - not many burglars are going to say "hey, is that just a .22?" followed by "pffft... that don't scare me...." And if you can shoot it well enough to hit the bastard, a hit from a .22 counts for a lot more than a loud miss from a .44 mag. And besides, (to paraphrase Thom, our own "widebody") "you go to a gunfight with the gun you have, not the gun you wish you had."

charleskieffner 12-18-2008 05:34 PM

"DONT TAZE ME BRO!"

"DONT .22 ME BRO!"

man i know what .22's do to a human. offroad racing buddy of ours was doc at scottsdale memorial hospital one too many full moon nights and hes got some gun shot stories.

worst wounds are .22's. freeking things if ya get shot in da head end up coming out your feet they dance around so much bouncing off bone here and there. lots of collateral damage despite obvious organ damage!

zombees and myself NEVER WANT TO BE SHOT BY A .22!

targa911S 12-18-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aston@ultrasw.c (Post 4367568)
If you are not going to carry it, consider the 6" Much improved accuracy due to the longer sight radius (very little to do with ballistics of the actual round)

why would you carry a .22? just looking to piss off the perp?

SLO-BOB 12-18-2008 07:08 PM

It's a fine choice - especially as a 1st handgun.

On self-defense - The only pistol I currently own now is a 22. Rest assured, 6 accurately placed 22 bullets are better than 1000 missed large caliber bullets. 22s are easy to shoot fast and accurately. Not long ago stats were that more people died from 22 and 25 caliber bullets than any other caliber. Probably different these days. Also, when it comes time to defend yourself in the courtroom after defending yourself at home, I suspect you look a little more "innocent" when they hear you used your puny 22 target pistol vs a 40 cal Glock with hi-cap mag. Something to consider.

targa911S 12-18-2008 07:19 PM

I had a .25 Colt auto. Nice little gun, but you would be better off just throwing it at the perp for as accurate as it was. My carry is a Colt 1908 in .380.

sjf911 12-18-2008 07:52 PM

Great type of handgun to learn with. I learned with an old High Standard Dura-Matic and taught my children with a Browning Buck Mark.

aigel 12-18-2008 10:01 PM

You need to step up to a targed pistol. That short barrel thing is going to limit your accuracy. The Mark III Hunter is very nice. You should look at it at the store and handle it next to the short barrel gun. This pistol shoots as accurate as a .22 rifle. The trigger is very nice out of the box.

http://ruger.com/Firearms/images/Products/258L.jpg

Have fun.

George

charleskieffner 12-19-2008 04:59 AM

i shudder at the thought of buying match grade ammo for it.

right now since we have been shooting like the zombee killers we are getting ready prior to our elk hunt, the best deal we found on cheap ass ammo was WALLY WORLD (walmart). federal 550rds for 13.47 a box.

man if i had match grade ammo, nothing would be safe.

i traded an old 6x leupold that had gone blurry for a bushnell red dot scope for it.

it was a blast to shoot times x 10 w/out scope.

now with that stupid ass red dot on the supplied weaver rail....................

NOTHING IN FRONT OF THE BARREL DOESNT GET VENTILATED!


during our elk hunt a coupla days after son got his 3x4 bull and the wind was running out of our sails one day we pulled over on the quads at a waterhole we had been watching. sat there and glassed it for a while and finally after a while got bored and whipped out the 22/45 stainless w/red dot.

man the day just seemed brighter after blasting off 200 rds in no time with a natural safe backdrop and noone around in the middle of bfe.

took about maybe 10 rds adjusting for elevation and we were beaning the POO outta targets a 100yds off that we had lazer ranged.

we could have done that all day had we enough ammo.

add a 12 pak and you have instant targets to dance all over hells 1/2 acre.

ramonesfreak 12-19-2008 05:27 AM

thanks for the comments. ive been reading alot and watching the youtube videos etc... seems like a great gun

as i said, im not looking for a protection gun. i wanna shoot paper targets at a range. i live in a city and cant just walk around the back yard shooting beer bottles or i would do that all afternoon

my priorty is an accurate target pistol that is FUN to shoot, cheap to shoot and easy to clean and that will last a lifetime.

i wish santa would bring me this
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legion 12-19-2008 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charleskieffner (Post 4368790)
the best deal we found on cheap ass ammo was WALLY WORLD (walmart). federal 550rds for 13.47 a box.

That's what I use. I think I paid a hair over $8 for them a year ago. My Ruger .22's seem to like it the best (for cheap ammo). I'd get stovepipes and FTFs like crazy (even on my 10/22) with Remington.

charleskieffner 12-19-2008 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4368826)
That's what I use. I think I paid a hair over $8 for them a year ago. My Ruger .22's seem to like it the best (for cheap ammo). I'd get stovepipes and FTFs like crazy (even on my 10/22) with Remington.

yeah go figure on the remingtons. the bumble bee/wasp/hornet color picture werked like crap in my 10/22's. 22/45 seems to gobble everythang feed.

i am sick and damn tired of figuring ammo for multiple weapons. i think im being a dumass. i am trying to RIGHT THIS WRONG by buying :

ALL FEDERAL AMMO for each of everythang i own to get the FAR PAGE DISCOUNTO!

on quanity purchased and on freight. when i purchase in bulk.


i HAD to narrow the caliber insanity down to a chosen few:


.22lr
9mm
.45
.44mag
30/30
.308
.338
.45/70
12ga
.410


with those rounds there aint a damn thing walking on this PLANET that wont DROP!


tired of wazoo wildcats/tired of looking for wierd rounds. getting too damn old.

all i want to do is shoot game as i need it. birds/deer/pigs/ELK! maybe a big horn sheep, or some antelopezzzz. maybe a few squirrels, maybe snake, maybe a mtn lion, a bob-kitty.

just gave the maids several of them some elk chorizo for navidad felizzzer(xmas) made me feel good they wanted it and they respected the animal for its supurb taste!

HardDrive 12-19-2008 10:11 AM

srandallf, that would make an excellent target pistol.

id10t 12-19-2008 10:46 AM

They are a royal pain to take apart and put back together. Good news is you only have to do it every 4 or 5 thousand rounds thru 'em... :)

I'd find a MK II if I were you - they are out there. The Mk III moved the mag release to where it should be (good) but added a magazine safety (bad - it messes with trigger pull).

tabs 12-19-2008 11:52 AM

One can buy these guns used all over the place...for cheap

Ditto with Higgy...

Ruger 22 Auto is one great gun for the price point.

Bull Barrel 5 inch...

I prefer High Standards but that is my eclectic taste.

HD military, GD, GE, Supermatic 100, 101, 102,103,104,106, 107 (military grip). Prefer Trophy models.

Also like the Revolvers..Colt Officers mdls, Diamond Backs & S&W mdl 17's aka K22's. For esoterica a little Colt Police Positive Target or S&W mdl 34. They look like little kids cap guns...smal frames.

Freedom Arms makes the most accurate 22LR SA with their Mdl 83. If ya run outa ammo you can use it as a club.

gtc 12-19-2008 01:42 PM

Ok then... Ruger MkII or Browning Buckmark Plus?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1229723103.jpg

2Tight 12-19-2008 02:00 PM

I have fired a friends newer Mk III and liked the heft and grip but did not like feel of the new style trigger that much. I own a 1954 Hi-Standard Sport King passed down from my Dad and I can still shoot better groups with it than the Ruger even after 1,000's of rounds through it.

Bill Douglas 12-19-2008 02:04 PM

That's a very handsome gun Graham. Do you like it?

rouxroux 12-19-2008 02:13 PM

MkII.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/uzi.gif

gtc 12-19-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 4369766)
That's a very handsome gun Graham. Do you like it?

It's not mine, unfortunately. My uncle has one though, and it's even nicer in person than in the photo. He owns several Rugers in addition to the Buckmark, but I couldn't get him to confess his preference for one or the other.

tangerine911S 12-19-2008 05:58 PM

I own a buckmark and it is a very nice pistol. I have nothing to compare it to because it is the only pistol I have ever owned but the quality is very good.


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