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				What they don't teach engineers
			 
			1) There are at least ten types of condensor 2) Theory says how a circuit functions. Not why it doesn't. 3) Not everything works according to the specs in the data sheets. 4) Anything practical you learn will be obsolete before you use it, except complex math which you will never use. 5) Engineering is like having a class at 8 in the morning and lab work late at night every day for the rest of your life. 6) Paid overtime? What paid overtime? 7) The managers, not the engineers rule the world 8) Always try to match hardware to software. 9) Dilbert is not a comic strip, it's a documentary. 
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			Brilliant!     
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			Forget what you learned/liked in Engineering School, you will never work in that field. There is never enough money to hire another engineer to help, but there is always money for another manager, to crack the whip. 
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			Engineering school is an ongoing four year I.Q. test to verify that you are smart enough to learn how to do the job your new employer is going to teach you.
		 
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			8 inch bolts will not fit in a 4 inch space. Pay the welder 1000 bucks to do it or the engineer 5000 to design it. There is such a thing as close enough. Where was that class on tolerances? Remember that sewer pipe isn't being shot to the moon. The best designed large diameter pipe alignment will be corrected in the field by the welder. A good machinist, welder, electrician, or any other tradesman or craftsmen is your friend. That 10% contingency should be tripled. The success of the piping system is inversely proportional to the experience of the engineer and exponentially proportional to the skill of the welder. If you don't low bid brain surgery why low bid structural framing work? You make money on a schedule not the design (does not apply to architects). If its stupid but it works it isn't stupid. Your professor isn't an engineer. Dirty boots is a sign of dedication. 
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			They went to the moon using 3.14 and a slide rule.
		 
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			The best thing about an engineering degree is that it gets you closer to that MBA    At my place of business, the engineers are the workhorses and get stuff dumped on them constantly by micro-managers without a clue. The only way to beat them is to get an NBA and become one of them. | ||
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			"Why buy one when you can get two for twice the price."
		 
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They also built the Pinto.
		 
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			my first engineering boss told me (bridge dude); "***** cliff, we're not building a swiss watch out here!" 
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I don't think a calculator would have fixed the Pinto. Or knowing pi to 27 decimal places.
		 
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			I thought Ford's accounting department build the Pinto.
		 
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They certainly decided that the lawsuits would cost less than the gas tank recall.
		 
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			Good one Milu. I'm almost finished with my Tech. Mgmt. degree in the engineering, mgmt. and robotics dept. 
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|  01-10-2009, 10:53 AM | 
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			What the REALLY don't teach engineers is liberal arts.
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			Most engineers are conservative.
		 
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			So far from what I have seen  Leadership and people management skills are NEVER part of Engineering programs. "Yes" or "NO" are not asnwers Engineers are capable of. If it's broke real bad the boss calls me not and Engineer to fix it. | ||
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				Disappointed
			 
			I’m still bummed that I had to take so many college classes to become an engineer, and I still don’t get to drive a train.
		 
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That people actually need to be able to access and fix the gadgets the engineers design.
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