About to get a SIG 1911.

[targa911S]

Nice Rick, nice.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Keep that 6909 as a backup. Don got his gun yesterday for about what those 6906's are going for and his SIG is twice the gun. I hate those safeties.

Maybe the P7 mag prices have come down with the guns. But last time I got some, they were $50'ish per. They hold seven rounds, so 7+1. AFAIK, no one makes aftermarket mags for them. They are super, super guns. But like all guns, they have their place and can cause problems if used outside of their place. And unless you want the cheapo neoprene Uncle Mike's holster, which is adequate, the correct holsters for P7's ain't cheap either. And these guns are heavy too. For the weight and money it takes to have one of these as a CCW gun, I just prefer a SIG. But when funds allow, I'll snag another P7 or two. They seem to defy market economics at the moment, but at some point, a very high-quality German gun that's no longer in production has to start gaining value again. Doesn't it?

BTW, I saw a P9S like Charles Kieffner's yesteday for $1250.

I don't do sigs for 2 reasons. Non-ambidextrous, and no manual safety.

My Smith (its really a 6906/5903 hand fitted hybrid) is as accurate as any sig i've ever fired, and with the porting and hogue grips the recoil is very mild, even with +P cor-bon. I've fired about 6,000rds through it, it is definitely primary gun good, i just have the itch for a P7, especially a $500.00 P7. LOL.

Is the PSP .40 S&W or 9mm? 7+1 seems low for a full length grip pistol like a P7 if it's in 9mm.

[Rick Lee]

SIG makes guns now with manual safeties, but I'll not own one. The decocker is the real safety.

The P7PSP only comes in 9mm, as does the P7M8. I believe the M10 and M13 come in .40, but they're north of $2k.

[m21sniper]

Well i have no use for a 7+1 9mm that overheats in a scant 4 mags worth of firing, so i guess i'll hold out. My dad has a Colt Pony that i keep trying to talk him into giving me for my birthday or Xmas that would fill the pocket pistol role much better.

Hahaha...

Never saw a manual safety sig, but i won't own an automatic without one.

[Rick Lee]

These are their two versions of safety guns.

[KFC911]

Rick, that Commander looks just like my CC. You got the lightweight version didn't ya, and if you don't mind disclosing, how much did that set you back? Out of curiosity, does your new acquisition have "Series xx" stamped on the slide?

[Rick Lee]

I traded the SIG 1911 and $20 for it. Seller was asking $950, which was way high. I showed it to another Colt guru later and he said it was made in 1987 and is still a Series 70. No Series 70 stamp on it though.

[azasadny]

I love my Sig P239! My father gave me a S&W Model 645 in stainless for Christmas and it shoots .45ACP very smoothly and with little recoil. My son has the S&W Model 59 in 9mm and it shoots nice too, but there are obvious differences between the Sig and S&W's when you strip them down to clean them. The Sig couldn't be easier to strip and clean but the S&W is a royal pain!

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I traded the SIG 1911 and $20 for it. Seller was asking $950, which was way high. I showed it to another Colt guru later and he said it was made in 1987 and is still a Series 70. No Series 70 stamp on it though.

Hmmm...interesting. Based upon Halm's link, mine has the "firing pin block" (as I recall from when I purchased it, or at least I've always thought it does), and I acquired mine new back in 79 or 80 and I would be surprised if Colt continued to produce them both. It's been years since I've broken mine down (I just don't shoot anymore), but now I'm tempted to out of curiosity. Thanks!

[Rick Lee]

I don't think you can tell if it has the firing pin block by just field stripping it. I'd do a serial # search and if that shows nothing, then you'd have to remove the breach block and firiging pin. I don't know that I'd ever use this gun for CCW, but I'd like to put it through my regular battery of tests.

[KFC911]

Do you know of a site for Colt serial #s? I love my CC, but they're pretty large, and heavy I suppose, for CCW (but I don't carry).

[Rick Lee]

Someone here has to know. I really don't know much about Colt serial numbers or provenance.

http://forum.m1911.org/

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by KC911

Do you know of a site for Colt serial #s? I love my CC, but they're pretty large, and heavy I suppose, for CCW (but I don't carry).

I have a complete list of Colt numbers. PM me and I will send the file.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by KC911

Hmmm...interesting. Based upon Halm's link, mine has the "firing pin block" (as I recall from when I purchased it, or at least I've always thought it does), and I acquired mine new back in 79 or 80 and I would be surprised if Colt continued to produce them both. It's been years since I've broken mine down (I just don't shoot anymore), but now I'm tempted to out of curiosity. Thanks!

If you bought it new in `79 or `80, then I am pretty sure it's a series 70. AFAIK, the FP block didn't come until a few years later (series 80). It should be marked on the slide.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

These are their two versions of safety guns.

The 1911 is a real beauty.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by azasadny

I love my Sig P239! My father gave me a S&W Model 645 in stainless for Christmas and it shoots .45ACP very smoothly and with little recoil.

I lust after a S&W 745.

[Rick Lee]

For the money, I'd rather have a tricked out Springfield than a SIG GSR. SIG is the best at their decocker guns. But I wish they'd stick to that and leave the 1911's to the 1911 pros. I got my Springfield Mil-Spec. for $275 delivered, added $100 in custom parts and then mailed it off to Robar for fitting, night sights and refinishing. I have about $800 into it now and it's as nice as they come and, IMHO, more of a real 1911 than a SIG. However, it is pretty cool that 1911 mags are so universal in fit, whereas SIG's other lines of pistols have their own specific mags that don't fit anything else.

[m21sniper]

I loved my Springfield "Champion" 1911. Just a fantastic pistol, i regret selling it all the time.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

If you bought it new in `79 or `80, then I am pretty sure it's a series 70. AFAIK, the FP block didn't come until a few years later (series 80). It should be marked on the slide.

You're correct based upon my online reading yesterday. Mine isn't stamped "Series xx" at all (and appears to have been manufactured in '78 based upon one site I visited). I would have sworn that I read my CC had the FP block back when I purchased it, but I've killed a few brain cells in my day