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Here is a true story; you can draw your own conclusions from the story. Some of my thoughts follow; I would love to hear what your conclusions are, because truly they are dependent on the individual and their train of thought at the time they read this?
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I'd have sure as hell recognized Eric Clapton playing guitar...
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An interesting thread topic. For a few days now I have been contemplating starting a thread aimed at the younger members here, advising them to step back and take good look. I might still.
There is a farmers market here in Sunday at the marina. It's really a nice place to be on s Sunday morning,yet I get there all of twice a year. There are usually musicians playing. The one I have to stop and listen to is a guy who brings an upright piano in the back of a pick up. He sits on the edge of the bed and knocks out the best blues you'd ever want to hear. My wife is usually walking away to the car just like the moms in the story above. |
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Exactly. It's all subjective and tuned to what we like.
Also, regarding the experiment....ever been somewhere and you bump into someone you "know" but can't place them? We filter our environments.... We'd filter this experience out into a. violin player in the subway. b. ah nice tune. c. oh it's something I recognize. d. oh, it's someONE I recognize. e. OMG, it's THAT GUY!!!! Rob, do a search on Weingarten w/in the last 6 months. The follow up article was really interesting. Seems there was some kind of link to the past in this...No kidding. After the SuperBowl, I'll look for it if you can't find it.
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Music, as is with most other types of art, has to speak to you.
If the best rappers in the world were doing their thing, I'd pass without pausing. If it were a guitarist, I'd stop. I play guitar, and look for tips anywhere I can. Violins, not so much my thing, but unless he was playing a piece I knew, I would just stop to study his technique for any tips I could get. I paid $75 to see TOOL, but I wouldn't pay $100 to see Joshua Bell. I bet most of Bell's audience couldn't tell the difference between him, and a "lesser" musician. Most are there to impress themselves, and each other with their "taste" and "sophistication". If I were late for work I wouldn't stop for anyone. I love music, but work pays the bills. |
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if it was anne marie calhoun.......
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They should have gotten Vanessa Mae to do it.
As someone who has spent thousands of rush hour commutes on the DC Metro, most of which involved Metro Center, the biggest stop, I can say most folks ain't on that cesspool of mass transit because they want to take their time and check out the local music scene. Rush hour in DC consists of people trying to and from work. Since most of the street musicians play at the top or bottom of the giant escalators, it's not exactly a great place for spectators to gather while the rats are racing to get around them. Oh, did I mention the vast, vast majority of street muscians in DC absolutely SUCK? Sometimes I've wanted to pay people to stop playing or so they could afford some more lessons. Seriously, they SUCK. I saw one guy in Alexandira once who was playing Stanley Jordan songs on his guitar and that blew me away, not just because of how hard it was, but because he was the first decent street musician I had seen in DC. There's also the Korean Moonie nut who gets on the trains and sings hymns. Of course, he doesn't start until the doors close, so he has a totally captive audience. After a few years of putting up with all the nuts there, it really would take a total star to get me to pay attention. Commuting on the DC Metro is why the iPod was invented.
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Ha! I linked some Ann Marie Calhoun recently.....
She is tres hot and can play
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Here's the text of the actual Washington Post article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721_pf.html It actually calls him "one of the finest classical musicians in the world" which is not quite the same as saying that he's the best.
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What did they expect? Try that in New York, you could have the reincarnated spirit of Miles Davis blowing the trumpet and nobody would care.
Congratulations to the Washington post for proving what everyone knows, that there is a time and a place for everything. Next: auctioning off a Porsche 550 Spyder in an empty auditorium.
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Yeah, I've stopped to listen to performers before. Have him playing someplace like a park or a beach or someplace that folks are spending leisure time, and there probably would be a crowd, but I doubt most folks budget extra time in their morning commute to listen to a street performer. Even a really good one.
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Kind of a cool follow up to the original story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/24/AR2008062401153.html
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I read that story a while back when they first did the "experiment". Being a violinist, I'm biased, but I can without a doubt that if I'd heard a performance of that calibre in a subway, on the street, etc. I would absolutely have noticed, and would have taken time out of my day to stay, unless I was missing a limb and on the way to the hospital. Even then...
6 out of "thousands" is probably a similar proportion to society at large that would pay to see a violinist perform live. Factor in that of those thousands, maybe only half were within proper earshot to be able to hear the difference between a pro and an amateur and it's not a surprising result. Remember, most people don't care about the arts, beauty, etc. At least not more than their boss yelling at them for being late.
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Last February I produced a concert here in Hamilton at the GO station (commuter rail/bus) during the evening rush hour. We set up a stage in the middle of the room where everyone walked by getting off the train or bus to go to the parking lot, city bus stop, taxi stand, etc. In an hour we probably had several hundred people walk by, and were amazed at the number of people who stopped and stayed, some for the whole thing. One woman told me after the concert that her husband was a bit pissed that she was late and didn't believe that she was watching a concert in the station! We got a ton of positive feedback, and many people wanting to know if we'd be back the next day, or we were doing more of this around town. Alas, budgets. Admittedly, this was more of a concert than a street-musician plant. But it did tell me that people will take time out of their day for something special. ![]() Video from the local newspaper: http://cledroit.googlepages.com/nminp.wmv
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I'd slow my pace for a moment and then get going.
Not a big fan of the violin solo. Now if it had been a trombone... KT
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I'd make a violin move, and have a Nano in my pocket playing a maestro if I thought I could make $64 dollars an hour tax free in a heartbeat!
That Obama guy is really on the ball. He said he'd make a job for me, and here it is. How much are those Nano thangs anyway? There's a beat-up violin in a closet somewhere around here...... |
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