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kach22i 02-04-2009 12:31 PM

Vitamin "B" for stress, Vitamin "D" for lack of sunshine and bone building.

Peppermint tea and white rice if your stomach is also acting up.

Carbon monoxide poisoning is very common, many sources.

Have your house checked out, I think you can purchase a portable meter and test the inside of your truck too.

rfloz 02-04-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milt (Post 4463808)
Look 171, Paul was inferring MS.

Tingling, numbness or just not quite being sure of exactly where your feet are is also a sign of neuropoathy which is caused by diabetes and/or peripheral artery disease. It can reach the point where you can't feel the pedals and it can get that bad just from borderline diabetes over time. Diabetes can also sap your energy bigtime.

Growing old ain't for sissies.

I didn't hear one word about doing any exercise. Get off your butt and start walking/biking/swimming or some low-impact aerobic exercise at least three times a week (Yoga and Pilates are good, too. Pick your poison) . It will give you more energy and will help with any depression.

You owe yourself a complete physical. Just do it. I put mine off way too long and now have several conditions that need attention. Luckily, none are life-threatening, but they would be if not found and treated.

DE too much? Come out to El Toro for some Orange Coast Region auto-x. It's a lot closer and there are plenty of old farts doing it. No, it's not the same. So what? It's still fun and challenging and there are plenty of P-car guys to socialize with if you choose to.

End of lecture.

Hope you are feeling better.

Zeke 02-04-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rfloz (Post 4464818)

I didn't hear one word about doing any exercise. Get off your butt and start walking/biking/swimming or some low-impact aerobic exercise at least three times a week (Yoga and Pilates are good, too. Pick your poison) . It will give you more energy and will help with any depression.

I guess you don't know much about me. Exercise? I removed a tree stump this morning, crawled under a 914 for most of the afternoon. I don't sit around much.

Working as a carpenter, I walk, climb, carry, lift, bend all day long. That's been going on for my entire adult life. I used to run every day and I rode a bike regularly. My knees have paid the price for all of this.

I'd say I get my heart rate up at least once a day to 120 to 140. I goes down relatively quickly, but I haven't timed it recently.

I do appreciate all the replies. I've even gotten a few PM's. Apparently I'm not the only one.

rfloz 02-05-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by milt (Post 4465146)
I guess you don't know much about me. Exercise? I removed a tree stump this morning, crawled under a 914 for most of the afternoon. I don't sit around much.

Working as a carpenter, I walk, climb, carry, lift, bend all day long. That's been going on for my entire adult life. I used to run every day and I rode a bike regularly. My knees have paid the price for all of this.

I'd say I get my heart rate up at least once a day to 120 to 140. I goes down relatively quickly, but I haven't timed it recently.

I do appreciate all the replies. I've even gotten a few PM's. Apparently I'm not the only one.

No, I don't now much about you except to admire your work. Sorry to presume. If you are doing all that - great.

However, from your description, something is amiss. My father-in-law was hauling fertilizer and wood planks up the very steep hill in my back yard and gardening up there for hours into his early eighties. Now, 85, he is slowing some but still goes up there to garden 2-3 days a week, just not for as long. In your sixties you should have plenty of energy, maybe not like twenty, but still enough to not really notice it.

Sounds like your cardio is good, but something like diabetes or depression can really sap the energy anyway. So, please, go get that physical.

dipso 02-05-2009 02:26 PM

Looks like rain for a few days.
Perhaps a day spent in the bar shooting pool and drinking beer is what the doctor orders.

fingpilot 02-05-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4464074)
Carbon monoxide poisoning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning

I just fixed an exhaust leak in my truck, I feel much better now.

I had to fix the torn muffler and ratty tailpipe on the truck to get the same high that I used to. Somedays it just don't pay to get out of bed.

I call it the DGAS's.

competentone 02-05-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt V (Post 4462625)
It could also be something fairly easy to fix. I had the same problem starting about a year ago. Turns out I have a vitamin B-12 deficiency. Discovered by doing a blood test. I get a B-12 shot once a month. I can tell when it is starting to wear off and need another. I start getting run down and tired again. Even my wife notices the difference. A day or so after I get the shot I feel like all my energy has come back.

I read the comment "no meat since '84" and immediately thought "B-12 deficiency."

Take the B-12 as part of a high dose balanced B-complex supplement.

(If you've never taken high doses of B-vitamins before be aware that you'll start peeing orange, as the B vitamins not used by your body wash through your system.)

Zeke 02-13-2009 03:33 PM

Well, I finally got into the internist's office today. I took the above advice and started taking B12 and I feel pretty good. Still, there's the underlying pain of shoulders and knees, so I went in.

Yes, I'll be taking tests for the next 2 weeks, but the kicker is the internist looks and my one shoulder and says I could unhook this easy. You've got nothing left to hold your arm in the socket except the tendons. The first guy you see Monday is the orthopod before your arm falls off.

Geez, I didn't think it was that bad, I just thought I was old.

dipso 02-13-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milt (Post 4484142)
Geez, I didn't think it was that bad, I just thought I was old.

Nah, your not old Milt. Just broken in.;)

targa911S 02-13-2009 05:19 PM

Milt face it, you have the same problem I do, it's called ....OFS. Old Fart Syndrome.

Drink coffee, eat bacon & eggs, start smoking and drinking....live it up...it's coming soon.

look 171 02-13-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milt (Post 4463808)
Look 171, Paul was inferring MS. He knows about MS, although it's not he that is afflicted.

Sounds like you and I should hook up. We could swap stories about all the goofy customers and probably howl are asses off. I'll start it right here about all the dog crap I've stepped around and stepped in. If you know I'm coming, pick it up. In the last couple of years I've been known to step in it on purpose just before going into the house. It's usually picked up the next time I go to that job. :)

There, that makes me feel pretty good!


sound like it should be a blast, I need to laugh my ares off. Just this last week I got out and started driving again. Cabin fever was killing me. Everything is just not as razor sharp like it was before. I think it just takes time to get back to normal. The dog ****. Oh that's funny. I will have to remember that and actually do it. Thankfully, for the most part, my clients are OK. I once had an old lady at the Centry City Tower told me that she refuse to ride in the elevator with me and that I have to take the freight elevator. I said OK and try and close the door. Too bad someone else stuck his hand in the door and came in.

Zeke 02-14-2009 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 4484850)
. I once had an old lady at the Centry City Tower told me that she refuse to ride in the elevator with me and that I have to take the freight elevator. I said OK and try and close the door. Too bad someone else stuck his hand in the door and came in.

Jeez, that's worse than being black in the South 40 years ago. I can tell you emphatically that she would have been waiting a long time for me to arrive in that other elevator. Wouldn't have been the first time I walked directly to the truck and leave never to return. I've walked away from jerks mid conversation, jumped in the truck and left while they stand there with their mouth still moving, no words left to say.

That's the wonderful thing about a fast moving business like doors and windows. 50 or so customers a year in a good year for a small time operator. If you dismiss a couple, it doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, it helps morale. :)

Danimal16 02-14-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MichiganMat (Post 4461920)
Get off the caffeine.

It will take a few days to detox but I bet you'll feel worlds better. Drink lots of liquids. I fought dehydration and caffeine fatigue for years until I started listening to my body, now I treat it with a lot more respect.

Mat,

I agree, but just do not follow your great advice. Hydration is a real boon to feeling better. Caffeine is my drug of choice. Hi my name is Dan and I am a caffeine addict.

scottmandue 02-14-2009 07:27 AM

Milt,

Glad to hear your getting yourself checked out... there is so much amazing stuff they can do with the new technology.

As we get older our bodies slowly change and we don't notice.

Like my high blood sugar... I finally got medical insurance and went in for a check up... the doc looks at my numbers and says.
"I bet you pee and sweat a lot"
"Uh, yeah"
"Here, take these, it will help"

Zeke 03-04-2009 12:59 PM

Just got back from the doc with all the test results. I'm good on all counts except for degenerative arthritis. Off to the rheumatoid doc for more.

I don't feed as good as the doc says I am, but I guess aches and pains can take their toll.

m21sniper 03-04-2009 01:05 PM

Coke. Lots and lots of coke.

Burnin' oil 03-04-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4464074)
Carbon monoxide poisoning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning

I just fixed an exhaust leak in my truck, I feel much better now.

That explains it . . .

Milt, I would chime in on your issues, but I don't have the energy.

Dottore 03-04-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by trader220 (Post 4462069)
About 2 years ago I started with the Aderol and lexpro. That combo changed my life. In 2004 I went from a 16 year career as a floor trader to running a hedge fund off the floor. While on the floor it was easy for me to stay focused but off the floor in the slower paced environment I was all over the map. That combo helped me tune in and always be sharp. I lost a bit too much weight initially on it but I now remember to eat right and got it back. I have since added zocor to the mix because my cholesterol had been creeping up for years. My father is a cardiologist and proscribed them zorcor for me me. My heart rate and BP are fine, but it’s good to keep them checked

Good god. That's a frightening post.

Rot 911 03-04-2009 04:38 PM

Milt, glad to hear the B-12 is helping and it never hurts to go to the doc to make sure things are all working ok. Now let's all get back to getting old. :D

Jeff Hail 03-04-2009 05:04 PM

Typical symptoms of adrenal burnout. The dome light stays on all the time and the motor still turns yet always a little low on energy.

Get a checkup and blood workup. Then take the printout to an Endocrinologist. Have them check your T3 and T4 levels.

Good article......
By Dr. Larry Wilson <larry@drlwilson.com>
Thousands of people suffer from constant fatigue, unrelieved by rest and sleep. This is the main symptom of adrenal burnout syndrome. Other symptoms may include a craving for sweets, low blood pressure and blood sugar, irritability and depression. Low energy impairs every system of the body. Secondary symptoms range from impaired digestion to infections. Toxic emotions accumulate with adrenal burnout. The world looks bad, people are evil, and a hopeless attitude is not uncommon.

The condition is also called adrenal hypofunction, adrenal exhaustion or adrenal insufficiency. Unlike fatigue, one’s energy does not return after a good nights rest. Burnout is a more serious derangement of the body’s energy system.

The adrenals are the major glands the body uses to respond to stress. Its hormones raise the blood sugar and blood pressure, and promote energy production. Adrenalin (or epinephrine) is used for emergencies. The longer-acting anti-stress adrenal hormones are cortisone and cortisol. Aldosterone, another adrenal hormone, retains sodium and increases the blood pressure. Related closely to the sympathetic nervous system, the fight-or-flight response it is called. When the adrenals become depleted, the body is unable to handle stress.

Most physicians do not diagnose adrenal burnout syndrome. Rarely, if enough tests are run, it may be called Addison’s disease, which doctors consider incurable. Recovery from adrenal burnout, however, is definitely possible. The condition affects both men and women, and even children as well. Some children are born this way and never experience plenty of energy.

Burnout may develop slowly or be caused by a single trauma. John F. Kennedy experienced burnout during World War II. A Japanese destroyer rammed his patrol boat late one night, killing most of the crew. He never recovered from the shock. For the rest of his life, he needed replacement adrenal hormones. If he had found the right practitioner, perhaps they would not have been needed.

Causes of Adrenal Burnout
Excessive stress, an important cause of burnout, can be from many sources. Chemical toxicity and nutritional depletion are among the physical causes. Mental, emotional or spiritual stress may be a major factor. Financial, family or other stress may also contribute to burnout.

Any excessive stress can deplete the adrenals, especially when weakened by poor nutrition. Working too much or emotional stress are two common causes. Excessive stimulation, especially for children, is another cause. Fast-paced, high-stress, fear-based lifestyles are a sure prescription for adrenal burnout.

Other stressors in cities are noise and electromagnetic pollution. Cell phones, microwave towers and appliances like televisions, microwave ovens and computers give off strong electrical fields.

Nutritional Deficiencies are a common cause. When under stress, the need for nutrients is much greater. Carbohydrates, when excessive in the diet, stress the adrenals. Diets low in protein may also create deficiencies. Inadequate or poor quality water affects oxygenation of the tissues.

Most diets are low in nutrients required by the adrenals. These include B-complex vitamins, vitamins A, C and E, manganese, zinc, chromium, selenium and other and other trace elements. The reasons for this begin with how food is grown. Most food is grown on depleted soils. Processing and refining further deplete nutrients. Habits like eating in the car or while on the run further diminish the value derived from food. Also, allergic reactions to foods such as wheat and dairy products can damage the intestines and reduce the absorption of nutrients. Toxic metals and chemicals often play a large role in adrenal burnout. Everyone is exposed to thousands of chemicals in the air, the water and the food. Other sources are dental materials and skin contact with chemicals. Over-the-counter and prescribed medications add to the body’s toxic load.

Toxins may also be generated within the body due to impaired digestion. When food is not properly digested, it either ferments or rots in the intestines, producing many harmful substances that are absorbed into the body. Chronic infections, of dental and other origin, also contribute to the toxic load. In most people, the organs of elimination do not function at an optimal level. As a result, toxic substances slowly build up in the body, leading to adrenal burnout and many other health conditions.

Stimulants damage the adrenal glands. They whip the adrenals. Caffeine, sugar and alcohol are among the most common stimulants. Less obvious stimulants include anger, rage, arguing, hatred, loud music, the news and movies full of suspense. Vigorous exercise, sexual preoccupations and other thrills may also act as stimulants.
Stimulant use, however, can also be a result of adrenal burnout. Stimulants are attractive to one in burnout to provide temporary energy. This is an appeal of the drug culture, both legal and recreational.


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