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What say ye about a Jag X-type?

So its an '02 Jag X-Type 2.5 stick shift. Red with tan guts. 70,xxx and a slight oil leak. I have no interest but my dad wants to know? Should I tell him to go fer it of to run like hell? Are there any major issues with these?

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Jaguar X-Type is little more than a rebadged Ford Mondeo Mk. 3 (sold in the US as the Ford Contour). There is no Jaguar engineering or quality in it, which in itself is not a bad idea because Jaguar was going downhill in the 90s.

They had to make it 4WD because the Mondeo is front drive and they could not have a front drive Jaguar. The 2.5 powerplant is also used in the Mondeos. Now they have frond drive X-Types and even diesels!!!!!

Fron the Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_X-Type

"Codenamed X400, the X-Type was Jaguar’s attempt to compete in the compact executive car segment. Jaguar and parent company Ford envisaged the ‘baby Jag’ as Jaguar's first compact 4-door. The X-Type was one of the last to be styled under the supervision of Geoff Lawson, with the principal designer credited as Wayne Burgess.

Neither Jaguar nor Ford had a suitable small rear-wheel drive platform to base the X-Type on, and the decision was made to base the X-Type on a modified version of the Ford CD132 platform, the basis for the 2000 Ford Mondeo. In order to distinguish it from its rivals and its Ford origins, the X-Type was initially offered as all-wheel drive only and mated to a 2.5 litre and 3.0 litre V6 petrol engine. In 2003, the X-Type was offered in front-wheel drive with the introduction of Jaguar’s first four-cylinder diesel engines, and with the smaller 2.0-litre petrol V6...

Ford's attempt to turn the Ford Mondeo front-drive compact car into an "all-wheel drive" Jaguar sports sedan by badge engineering backfired. Many compared it to the Cadillac Cimarron, even though reviews were not largely negative. Its humble origins did little to appeal to the buyers of high-priced imports. Consumers also thought it was absurd to pay considerably more for a rebadged Mondeo despite more standard equipment, and Ford should have developed a compact model specifically for Jaguar instead. A common misconception in North America is that the X-Type is somehow directly related to the Ford Taurus. X-Type shares nothing with the Taurus, with the possible exception of the 3.0L V6, which was heavily modified for use in the Jaguar and is not interchangable with Taurus.

Due to poor sales and reduced profit margins, stemming partly from a weaker United States dollar, Jaguar ceased sales of the X-Type in North America in late 2007."

Here you are a pic of the Mk. 3 Mondeo for comparison:

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Ya I had read that after I posted here. I think I have him talked out of it.
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Don't ask me anything about Jags. My POS ex's BF drove one and it just kind of causes a reaction to me. I hate Jags for that stupid reason. When I see one I get involuntary thoughts having to do with C4 or other stuff like that. I am seeking help for this condition.
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Paco, that's a Mk1 Mondeo.

Here's a mk3:

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Jag X Type is a bad joke, finally killed by Jag.
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If you are leaning this direction, go for the Jaguar S-Type. The 4.0 liter engine and six speed gearbox are excellent and will put a smile on your face everytime you drive it.

As for those who hate Jags, well go drive your Morris Minor or VW Beetle and enjoy life!
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Well he really isn't in the market for a Jag. He just saw a cheap X-type and thought it looked good so he wanted to know more about them.
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Wow, everyone is so harsh on the X-type.

Forget for a second that it wears the Jaguar badge. It's a relatively simple car that shares components with a common Ford.

But it's still a decent looking all-wheel-drive with a manual transmission for about $5-6K. That's cheaper than a 70K mile four cylinder 2002 Subaru! They're fantastic buys.

What's not to like? The 2.5 was used in the Contour, Cougar, etc here in the US, and it's easy to 'upgrade' to the Taurus (et al) 3.0L Duratec 24V at 200ish horsepower. The Jaguar bits can be spendy but it's easy to find used parts cheaper.

They're not bad cars used. They just didn't fit what a proper Jaguar should have been, when new.
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Don't ask me anything about Jags. My POS ex's BF drove one and it just kind of causes a reaction to me. I hate Jags for that stupid reason. When I see one I get involuntary thoughts having to do with C4 or other stuff like that. I am seeking help for this condition.
Sounds like you need some calming stress relief. Maybe a nice massage, or perhaps some other type of therapy:

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Todd,

You really want to turn him loose with a loaded GUN?
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Sounds like you need some calming stress relief. Maybe a nice massage, or perhaps some other type of therapy:

Yeah that too! But I need to save ammo for the possible large lizard attack.

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