Sig Sauer P250 anyone?

[masraum]

I'm researching guns. I need to go out and get my hands on more, but for now I'm mostly reading about them. I'm fascinated by the idea of being able to have 1 gun that will function with 2 different calibers. The Sig Sauer P250 is such a gun. It comes in 9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W and .45ACP. How perfect is that, you spend the cost of 1.5 guns and end up with 2 (you just can't use both simultaneously, but then I'm not in a John Woo movie, so that's ok).

I was wondering if anyone had tried or had their hands on one.

This is kind of a pain because there are so many options out there.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

A lot of guns have this option. The best scenario is the one that has a .22LR kit along with the major caliber. This lets you practice on the cheap with exactly the same frame/trigger you would use in a social situation.

My preference is my Kimber .22 Rimfire conversion atop a Springfield Armory TRP (a high-end production 1911).

[m21sniper]

It would be hard to do much better than a P250, but you sure as hell could do a lot worse. If it fits your hand good, you like the look of it, and it's in your budget, "pull the trigger."

I hugely prefer firearms with a manual safety, but that's a personal decision.

If i may throw my $.02 in, i think 9mm+P is plenty of power for any weapon intended for 2 legged self defense. You can get into .357 magnum power levels with some 9mm+P loads. Some 9mm loads are also good penetrators.

In a more rural setting, i'd want a progressively larger caliber the farther you get from the big city lights though.

I live in a big city, so a 9mm 15+1 semi-compact S&W third gen auto is the choice for me.

[Rick Lee]

I checked a P250 out at the SIG booth at the NRA annual meeting here in May. It's very interesting, but I think they're all double-action only. I like SIG's decocker guns and have five of them. For my P229 and P226 I have the .40 and .357SIG barrels. I'm thinking about getting a 9mm one for my P239 for the wife to shoot. You can get different barrels and mags for most SIG's and Glocks there days. The factory SIG barrels are usually around $100 used.

[masraum]

Thanks all, I'm just slightly better than clueless when it comes to handguns. I'm trying to research and read everything I can, so this info is great.

Thanks

[Rick Lee]

No offense, but if you're not handgun savvy, the P250 might not be a good first handgun for you. As was said before, you can swap calibers for lots of other makes and models and you might not want a DAO as your first one.

[m21sniper]

I don't really see any problems with a DAO action.

A lot of cops learn to shoot for the first time with DAO service pistols,and a lot of soldiers with DA service pistols.

[Rick Lee]

No problem with them at all. Just kinda weird if you're not used to it. No safety either, AFAIK.

[masraum]

Right, I shot a Kel-Tec P3AT this past weekend. It's DAO. It was a bit odd, but I suspect I could get used to it. Still, I did prefer the single action of the 1911 and Browning Hi-Power that I shot.

[Rick Lee]

Kel-Tec is a junk gun compared to SIG. No comparison.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Kel-Tec is a junk gun compared to SIG. No comparison.

Right, I was just saying, that I'd shot a DAO gun. It felt odd to have to pull the trigger that far to get the gun to fire, but I understand why that's the case. I need to get out to a couple of the gun stores in the area and get my hands on more guns.

[Rick Lee]

ParaOrdnance makes a double-action 1911. Looks pretty weird. The higher end makes will have a very smooth pull all the way through on D/A. I love my 1911 too, but it's not great for motorcycle carry because the trigger guard is kind of small when I'm wearing bike gloves. SIG makes huge trigger guards and I like a heavy D/A trigger when wearing such gloves.

[alf]

Curious, why do you want to switch calibers?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by alf

Curious, why do you want to switch calibers?

Because going smaller bullets are cheaper than big ones. It'd be nice to be able to tailor the gun towards the job.

Cheaper to go to the range and fire a bunch of 9mm than .45, but then the 22 conversion for a 1911 is even cheaper.

[Rick Lee]

9mm is unobtanium around here now, while .45ACP grows on trees.

[jyl]

Funny, in a local shop yesterday, I saw plenty of 9mm and 40S&W, but no 45ACP.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

9mm is unobtanium around here now, while .45ACP grows on trees.

Originally Posted by jyl

Funny, in a local shop yesterday, I saw plenty of 9mm and 40S&W, but no 45ACP.

Right, so how great would it be to be able to use either in the same gun. I could end up someplace like either place and I'd still be able to buy ammo for my gun. How great would that be?!

I'm not necessarily stuck on it, just seems like a good idea if there's a gun that can accomplish it cheaper than just buying 2 separate guns.

I'm going to handle as many guns as possible and see what I like the best.

[Rick Lee]

I don't know that you can swap 9mm for .45ACP barrels out in the same gun without other mods., perhaps a different spring. .45ACP is definitely my choice.

Two years ago a value-pak of 100 rds. of .45ACP was $19 at Wal-Mart. I think it's $35 now. I haven't bought 9mm in years, but it's very hard to find around here now. The shop I went to shoot at yesterday will not sell more than two boxes of any one caliber to someone. They make most of their money from the range fees, so they want to make sure there is always plenty of ammo left for that and that folks can't stockpile it and take it home.

[Rick Lee]

The conversion kits I've seen for .22 include a whole new slide, you need new mags too. The most interchangeable calibers are .40 and .357SIG and some of those can also take a 9mm barrel, but you'd need different mags for 9mm.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

The conversion kits I've seen for .22 include a whole new slide, you need new mags too. The most interchangeable calibers are .40 and .357SIG and some of those can also take a 9mm barrel, but you'd need different mags for 9mm.

Right, most of the guns that can change calibers are usually changing calibers that are fairly close in size. Also, you'd definitely need clips for each caliber. The modular Sig P250 can change between 9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W and .45ACP. That's pretty cool, to me. Not only that, but you can change grip sizes between full, compact and subcompact too.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProduct.aspx?categoryid=54

The concept behind the innovative SIG SAUER P250 is based on a serialized modular frame and a fire-control assembly that allows the user to easily configure their pistol, their way by changing caliber, grip size, trigger and slide length at will. The SIG SAUER P250 is available as a full size, compact and sub-compact pistol in 9mm, .40 S&W, .357 SIG and .45 ACP in a black Nitron finish or Two-Tone. MSRP of the SIG SAUER P250 ranges from $750.00 to $870.00 depending upon caliber and finish. The X-Change Kits for the P250 MSRP at $375.00 for any of the available calibers.

This is the one gun that changes everything, the new P250® is a modular pistol that allows the shooter to change caliber and grip size at will. One gun that adapts to perfectly fit any individual’s hand size, shooting style, and purpose.

The new SIG SAUER® P250 is a radically new kind of pistol that carries the renowned SIG SAUER quality – the performance, the accuracy and the reliability – into an exciting new range of unlimited possibilities, all built around a single, serial-numbered metal frame and fire control assembly. Choose the caliber: 9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W, or .45ACP. Choose compact, subcompact or full size polymer grip module. Select
one of three grip sizes and two trigger lengths. Now it’s a fully customized P250.

http://www.onpointfirearms.com/blog/2008/03/07/review-sig-sauer-p250/

The modular design is great for entry-level shooters. They can start out with a compact 9mm, equally well suited for a day at the range, home defense, or concealed carry—a jack-of-all-trades. When they decide they want to try IPSC or IDPA style competitions, they can upgrade to a full size .45acp platform without breaking the bank. When they want something smaller to fit in their pocket, they can purchase the subcompact conversion kit. This is the value proposition for the Sig Sauer P250: it saves you money in the long run and you’ll be a better shooter at the end of the day.