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slodave 04-12-2012 10:30 PM

Density altitude chart and interpolating numbers.
Alt. setting Pressure alt. conv. factor
29.92 ---------------------- 0
30.00 ---------------------- -73

What is the conversion factor for 29.97? For most, this would be easy, for me, my head starts to spin.

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:31 PM

no worries...it's just the instructor in me coming out.

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:32 PM

well, a thousand feet equals one inch of mercury

Flieger 04-12-2012 10:33 PM

You're just splitting the difference between two numbers. The number you get has to be between them.

slodave 04-12-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 6684762)
You're just splitting the difference between two numbers. The number you get has to be between them.

Yes, on a simple level I get this. But as I said, there is algebra involved to get the exact number and my algebra is nowhere near what it was in 8th grade anymore. It is a simple formula, I get that now. An hour ago, it eluded me. And instead of cheating, I tried to figure it out and understand.

It would be very easy for me to memorize all the answers and even recall them a year later, but I would not get anything out of that. None of the above even matters after you get a PPl anymore, but the FAA still wants everyone to understand the fundamentals and I am trying. :)

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:43 PM

not too much algebra involved. remember...for each inch of mercury that changes, it results in a change of 1000 feet of altitude. 1/2" equals 500 feet. .25" results in 250 feet. .13" results in 125. .06" is 62.5' .03" is 31' etc

slodave 04-12-2012 10:43 PM

You are having the same issue in a round about way. Say "hi" and smile. Pretty simple concept, but sometimes one can over engineer it. :)

slodave 04-12-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Embraer (Post 6684771)
not too much algebra involved. remember...for each inch of mercury that changes, it results in a change of 1000 feet of altitude. 1/2" equals 500 feet. .25" results in 250 feet. .13" results in 125. .06" is 62.5' .03" is 31' etc

73/8*5= 45.625 or 45 in the case of the number needed to solve the rest of the question. 29.97 is 5/8 of the way to 30.0.

svandamme 04-12-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6683424)
I just remembered a song that could be the theme song of the thread. Now with Tweez we have a surfer and all the spoon lovers combine to make this:

From one of my favorite movies. Top Secret.

WTF, i ... i'm quittin my job!!
Where can i do this?!?

Flieger 04-12-2012 10:47 PM

5/8 is 0.625.

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:47 PM

29.92-current baro.=x
then take x*1000+Current field elevation=pressure altitude.


in the airplane...to find pressure altitude, you just dial 29.92 in the altimeter while sitting on the ground

Flieger 04-12-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by slodave (Post 6684773)
You are having the same issue in a round about way. Say "hi" and smile. Pretty simple concept, but sometimes one can over engineer it. :)

I always like to find a better way to do things, even if it involves more complicated contraptions. :)

svandamme 04-12-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6684518)
Don't give the hookers the coke, then they will be still...

You've never even seen coke, or a cokehead, haven't ya..

give the hookers coke and they will be still.. LOL
That's like giving a 5 year old 1 gallon of coca cola and a kilo of sugar.. and then putting them to bed..expecting them to sleep..

slodave 04-12-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 6684778)
5/8 is 0.625.

I gave the formula above. Answer is 45. :)

Actually -45.

Flieger 04-12-2012 10:51 PM

There is a lot of interpolation in Thermodynamics. There are pages and pages of basically spreadsheets for thermodynamic properties at different temps and pressures for different substances and you need to interpolate between the cells.

Sometimes you need to interpolate diagonally- that is, do it three times since you have to interpolate between pressures and temperatures.

I use it in other classes too but thermodynamics and heat transfer used it the most.

porsche4life 04-12-2012 10:52 PM

You would be right, my experience with coke and cokeheads is rather limited...

Flieger 04-12-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slodave (Post 6684783)
I gave the formula above. Answer is 45. :)

Actually -45.

I was just curious how 29.97 is 5/8 of the way to 30.00

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slodave (Post 6684758)
Density altitude chart and interpolating numbers.
Alt. setting Pressure alt. conv. factor
29.92 ---------------------- 0
30.00 ---------------------- -73

What is the conversion factor for 29.97? For most, this would be easy, for me, my head starts to spin.

it's telling you the standard altimeter. if the pressure rises .08" of mercury, up to 30.00...it results in a decrease in altitude of 73 feet. if the pressure goes from 29.92 up to 29.97, it's going up .05" of mercury. based on our rule earlier...

1000/1" = x/.05" (1000 feet per 1 inch of mercury) = (x feet per .05" of mercury) should be 50'

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:54 PM

(i did 50 feet with the rule of thumb method). 5 feet is not bad for a quick guesstimate

Embraer 04-12-2012 10:55 PM

alright...gonna drive the 15 minutes home. cya


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