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RKDinOKC 08-10-2013 11:59 AM

Keep tellin ya... Some wheels easily hush the effeminate references...

http://www.zipbang.com/986boxster/b4nafter.jpg

Rick V 08-10-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 7594982)
Keep tellin ya... Some wheels easily hush the effeminate references...
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So does a loaded .45 on the seat

GH85Carrera 08-10-2013 03:15 PM

If I had a 4 car garage I would have Boxster

Flieger 08-10-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 7594982)
Keep tellin ya... Some wheels easily hush the effeminate references...

http://www.zipbang.com/986boxster/b4nafter.jpg

Apparently so does a rally ride height setting. ;)

Flieger 08-10-2013 07:04 PM

Tried out the tablet. Looks like it is best at getting books, movies, and tv shows (without the need for a cable tv bill!). Everything else is harder without a proper keyboard or mouse.

GH85Carrera 08-10-2013 07:07 PM

I bet you can get a blue tooth keyboard. Just a guess but I bet they are available.

GH85Carrera 08-10-2013 07:09 PM

I saw on the news that we have had over TWICE the rain of Seattle for the year. The last few years was a drought, now we have a plethora of rain.

tweezers74 08-10-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7595478)
I bet you can get a blue tooth keyboard. Just a guess but I bet they are available.

I have a blue tooth keyboard for my work iPad and I don't like it. I took it off. Never use it. Like the iPad for marketing purposes but other than that, maybe surfing the net. My boys use the personal iPad more than I do.

nynor 08-10-2013 07:21 PM

i think you can get a fold-up keyboard that works pretty good. IMO, tablets and smartphones are toys. nothing more. they can be used as a tool, but at heart, they are a toy.

nynor 08-10-2013 07:26 PM

okay, you electrically minded stijners, i am having an issue with the main breaker for my house. it is labeled at 100 AMPS, it keeps tripping. this summer it is really bad. much worse than last summer. if we have the window AC going (15A), the dryer going (30A) and the refrigerator kicks on (15A?), it will trip. of course, we do have other stuff going, like lights and a small fan. but, with just that stuff, it will trip.

if i have the computer going (10A?) and the other stuff above is going, it will trip for sure.

do circuit breakers wear out or get 'tired'? it is driving me a bit nuts.

Porsche-poor 08-10-2013 08:31 PM

Whoooooo hooooooo the kids band took first place this year in the summer 8 week band program.

RKDinOKC 08-10-2013 08:36 PM

If you have tracked it down to the fridge coming on kicking the breaker, the compressor/motor on the fridge is getting old and causing a much bigger draw to start up. Same with A/C compressors. Do you know what outlets are on what breakers? Bet you have something new plugged in. Transformers for things like PCs, Chargers, TVs, Stereos, etc still draw even when the device is in sleep mode, or in the case of chargers not even being used. I have a power strip with all my chargers on it that I turn off the power strip when not charging. Also have a power strip for the TV and associated cable box, stereo that has sockets that are only powered on when my stereo receiver is powered on and loads its socket.

I have a ground fault breaker that has only two bathroom and one garage receptacle on it, they all have ground fault receptacles. Had a fan/heater melt the extension cord and receptacle in the garage before throwing the breaker. After replacing the ground fault receptacle ANY power tool will immediately throw the breaker AND the ground fault receptacle. Can plug in and run same power tools off the ground fault receptacles in either bathroom on the same breaker. I'm pretty sure the melt down effected the wiring from the garage receptacle to the breaker box.

Flieger 08-10-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nynor (Post 7595510)
okay, you electrically minded stijners, i am having an issue with the main breaker for my house. it is labeled at 100 AMPS, it keeps tripping. this summer it is really bad. much worse than last summer. if we have the window AC going (15A), the dryer going (30A) and the refrigerator kicks on (15A?), it will trip. of course, we do have other stuff going, like lights and a small fan. but, with just that stuff, it will trip.

if i have the computer going (10A?) and the other stuff above is going, it will trip for sure.

do circuit breakers wear out or get 'tired'? it is driving me a bit nuts.

Probably a current spike caused by one of those compressors (or any electric motor) turning on. Motors will draw much more (like several times more) current when they first turn on. It only lasts a few milliseconds so a fuse would be fine but the circuit breaker reacts faster and will trip.

porsche4life 08-10-2013 10:15 PM

D... Breakers work via thermal. The juice flowing through them heats the breaker and eventually heats it enough to flip it... Eventually with numerous trips the breaker will weaken and begin to trip more...

Also with all over that running you will start getting up over 70 amps. We always say to not hit these amperage of a circuit, just for a margin of error. So a 17.5amp load I woul put on a 30amp circuit, despite it being <20amps. Combine those two factors and it will trip more often. Have an electrician come replace the main and double check it all.


Also, make sure the filters and coil are clean on your ac. The more efficient it is, the less draw. Same for the coils on your ac. :)
Call me if you need me to clarify anything!

:cool:

Flieger 08-10-2013 11:55 PM

Huh. Learn something new every day. I had never heard about circuit breakers tripping due to heat. I thought they were all based on electromagnetic induction - relay principles.

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Originally Posted by wikipedia
Magnetic circuit breakers

Magnetic circuit breakers use a solenoid (electromagnet) whose pulling force increases with the current. Certain designs utilize electromagnetic forces in addition to those of the solenoid. The circuit breaker contacts are held closed by a latch. As the current in the solenoid increases beyond the rating of the circuit breaker, the solenoid's pull releases the latch, which lets the contacts open by spring action. Some magnetic breakers incorporate a hydraulic time delay feature using a viscous fluid. A spring restrains the core until the current exceeds the breaker rating. During an overload, the speed of the solenoid motion is restricted by the fluid. The delay permits brief current surges beyond normal running current for motor starting, energizing equipment, etc. Short circuit currents provide sufficient solenoid force to release the latch regardless of core position thus bypassing the delay feature. Ambient temperature affects the time delay but does not affect the current rating of a magnetic breaker
Thermal magnetic circuit breakers

Thermal magnetic circuit breakers, which are the type found in most distribution boards, incorporate both techniques with the electromagnet responding instantaneously to large surges in current (short circuits) and the bimetallic strip responding to less extreme but longer-term over-current conditions. The thermal portion of the circuit breaker provides an "inverse time" response feature, which provides faster or slower response for larger or smaller over currents respectively.


Rick V 08-11-2013 01:52 AM

Morning Y'all.
D, you only have a 100A service? Holy smokes you really need to get that upgraded. 200A is standard operating procedure now and even if you have an old house like mine the panel box can be upgraded.
Hell I have 100A running to my den and garage only. I have two panel boxes that run off a single 200A supply.

Rick V 08-11-2013 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-poor (Post 7595579)
Whoooooo hooooooo the kids band took first place this year in the summer 8 week band program.

Nice

Outback Porsche 08-11-2013 02:24 AM

What type of breaker D? ECLB or older, or RCD/RCCB?

livi 08-11-2013 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-poor (Post 7595579)
Whoooooo hooooooo the kids band took first place this year in the summer 8 week band program.

Thats great, David!

Rick V 08-11-2013 02:46 AM

Morning Jeff,
Howdy Doc


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