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m21sniper 08-09-2009 10:26 AM

I think the 16v cars(like mine) sound even better. The 32v cars are far more refined sounding. Still nice, but not as nice.

(check my sig for the 16v sound)

Porsche-O-Phile 08-09-2009 10:28 AM

Same with the 16V 944s. They do sound great but they're a little too "packed", even if they are much more efficient at the higher RPMs. The 8V ones sound a bit more visceral.

A "project" 928 does kinda' scare me - they're notorious for electrical and vacuum problems (although 928 guys can probably chime in here). If I were going to buy one I'd want a good specimen just from a wiring standpoint. I can fix damn nearly anything on a car, but I find electrical gremlins to be the most troubling/annoying - one of the reasons I prefer simple cars with mechanical (non-electronic) features. They're also typically a heck of a lot cheaper to own.

m21sniper 08-09-2009 11:21 AM

The wiring is pretty easy to sort. The vacuum is pretty easy to ignore if you didn't buy the car to be perfect. ;)

928s have some issues, but it's all typical for any older car.

Where 928s kill ya is in labor time. Changing shocks on a 928 is an 8 hour job, as are the motor mounts.

sammyg2 08-09-2009 11:22 AM

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This thread needs a little wake-me-up!


KT

Kinda like a jet boat, it sounded like it was going faster than it was.

Racerbvd 08-09-2009 11:55 AM

I wouldn't mind having this one....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249843922.jpg


Here is a project for someone, cool color too..

Quote:


1980 Porsche 928S Euro 300hp - $2900 (Orlando)

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I have for sale here a nice looking 1980 Porsche 928S Euro. This is a very rare car because it is a european model 928 with the spcial S 300hp engine. First year of the S 300hp high compression euro engine and not available in the US, all other US models only had 230 hp. 300hp was not available in the US until in 1986 with the 928S4, but the car also weighed 350 lb more. The car looks good. However, the car is currently not running and needs some work. Car has been sitting for 2 years in a garage. Must sell and make space in garage.

Asking $2900

Serious buyers only call 321-217-4986



•Location: Orlando
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249844143.jpg

m21sniper 08-09-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4825846)
Kinda like a jet boat, it sounded like it was going faster than it was.

If that's the car i think it is, it's a 600+ hp 928 race car.

m21sniper 08-09-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 4825897)

Here is a project for someone, cool color too..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249844143.jpg

Too much for a non running car, even if it's a 5 speed. If it's a auto i wouldn't even want it. The early A/Ts are only 3 speeds.

pwd72s 08-09-2009 02:19 PM

When the 928, the auto press raved over them. Alas, those doing the buying didn't feel the same. Far as I'm concerned, they are a great GT car...and it's a shame the demand wasn't really there.

m21sniper 08-09-2009 03:37 PM

I think they sold all the ones they made. They didn't sell all that bad.

Paul K 08-09-2009 05:14 PM

On the subject of 928s, someone put this CL ad on my desk the other day...

1981 928 porsche.. needs tlc but does run and has a new tranny and rearend. have pictures on request. will sale or trade for a travel trailer.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249863173.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249863182.jpg

No thanks!

Joe Ricard 08-09-2009 06:22 PM

Owned a US early 928 Silver 5 speed for 13 yrs. Great car I thought it was fast. Would out run most newer Mustangs and they hated it.

Upgraded to S brakes. Cat by pass, and S wheels. Never put a wrench to the engine except wter pump and belt.

pwd72s 08-09-2009 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ricard (Post 4826420)
Owned a US early 928 Silver 5 speed for 13 yrs. Great car I thought it was fast. Would out run most newer Mustangs and they hated it.

Upgraded to S brakes. Cat by pass, and S wheels. Never put a wrench to the engine except wter pump and belt.

Some Mustangs are pretty quick these days...;)



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249872701.jpg

Red Baron 08-09-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4826540)
Some Mustangs are pretty quick these days...;)

The one you pictured is a beast! However I strapped a new GT the other day in my Wolfsburg Jetta.... A friend at work just bought the new GT and kept on about me bringing my 928 Turbo out. I told him he couldn't beat my Jetta and he called BS. I told him the only thing standing between him and finding out was opportunity. So we took them out for a few runs. He couldn't believe my Jetta beat him....it does have the 2.0T with the APR Stage III tho.. :cool:

He doesn't know that :D

I doubt he asks about my Turbo 928 anymore either.

Racerbvd 08-09-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Baron (Post 4826547)
The one you pictured is a beast! However I strapped a new GT the other day in my Wolfsburg Jetta.... A friend at work just bought the new GT and kept on about me bringing my 928 Turbo out. I told him he couldn't beat my Jetta and he called BS. I told him the only thing standing between him and finding out was opportunity. So we took them out for a few runs. He couldn't believe my Jetta beat him....it does have the 2.0T with the APR Stage III tho.. :cool:

He doesn't know that :D

I doubt he asks about my Turbo 928 anymore either.

What year Jetta???

m21sniper 08-09-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Baron (Post 4826547)
The one you pictured is a beast! However I strapped a new GT the other day in my Wolfsburg Jetta.... A friend at work just bought the new GT and kept on about me bringing my 928 Turbo out. I told him he couldn't beat my Jetta and he called BS. I told him the only thing standing between him and finding out was opportunity. So we took them out for a few runs. He couldn't believe my Jetta beat him....it does have the 2.0T with the APR Stage III tho.. :cool:

He doesn't know that :D

I doubt he asks about my Turbo 928 anymore either.

928 turbo?

I hate you! :D

Porsche-O-Phile 08-09-2009 11:28 PM

I know of a few turbo converted 928s. I used to have one of the handful of turbo conversion kits Reeves Callaway made for the 944 (IIRC there were 32 total) - apparently he made a few (four I think) for the 928 as well, which was basically the same "kit", just one manifold and turbo for each bank of cylinders - where the 944 had one manifold and one turbo the 928s had two each. The kit as originally promoted boosted the 944 n/a from 160 hp stock to over 270. Of course the release of the from-the-factory Porsche 951 a couple of years after Callaway's development pretty much killed the market for it.

In any case, I don't know offhand how much power the Callaway turbos for the 928 would make, but I'm sure they're fiendishly fast... Boost is sick addictive. I imagine a properly built 928 turbo would be a hell of a machine.

I could bore you to death with details of Callaway's turbo conversion for the 944 (I'm very familiar with the setup and how he met different technical challenges) but I'll shut up. Suffice to say that I'm certain that a turbo 928 project would be very, VERY worthwhile at the end of the day, although I think it's generally held that supercharging them is simpler.

m21sniper 08-10-2009 04:18 AM

Herr Kuhn on the 928 section of Pelican forums had a Calloway 928. He sold that and has since engineered a complete 600+ hp 928 turn key twin turbo system.

At $12,000 it's way out of my price range though.

Mark Robinson makes a 400+ hp single turbo kit for approx $5k. He also posts in the 928 forums of pelican.

jyl 08-10-2009 06:41 AM

I used to go to the occasionally annual "Sharks In The Park" 028 gathering in Berkeley, and visited the Devek shop once. Very inspiring. A later 928, either with or without enhancements, is a car I would love to have.

However, I'm scared off by the thought of DIY'ing one. How difficult is it to diagnose/work on the 928? How expensive/available are the parts?

The other problem is the teeny garage/fat car mismatch.

BTW, I vaguely recall once seeing a video (YouTube stuff) of a supercharged 928 out-accelerating a big sportbike, something like a Hayabusa.

m21sniper 08-10-2009 06:46 AM

I didn't know squat about Porsche's when i got my 928. It's quite simple and straightforward in design, but the car is assembled like an onion- in layers.

DIY'ing a 928 is far more labor intensive than any of my American cars ever was. But still eminently doable.

jyl 08-10-2009 06:58 AM

If you have a chance, post more pics of your 928.


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