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svandamme 08-25-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 4857299)
Solar powered. All of our laser wasps are green.

so how many sq foot of panels do they need for a sufficient high powered laser?
will they need a battery pack to accumulate power , prior to firing the laser?

Them wasps you have in the US must be bigger then the ones we have here...

cashflyer 08-25-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 4857299)
All of our laser wasps are green.

Those are Hornets.

targa911S 08-25-2009 02:17 PM

Just use this and you can eat them later.

http://www.seasonshot.com/How.cfm

m21sniper 08-25-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 4857398)
Just use this and you can eat them later.

http://www.seasonshot.com/How.cfm

Now that's a cool product.

BlueSkyJaunte 08-25-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 4857334)
Those are Hornets.

Nope, hornets use our patented Yellow and Black (tm) energy source.

charleskieffner 08-25-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff higgins (Post 4856929)
used to be a potential victim could defend themselves with whatever is handy. Whatever it was didn't have to be pre-approved for self-defense.

If i were out in the garage and someone came in through the open door to rob or attack me, would i blast him in the face with brake cleaner? Bet your ass i would. I'd probably even light him on fire afterwards...


lmfao!

RWebb 08-25-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4856883)
I'm pretty sure using a household chemical for anything other than its intended use is a crime, probably a felony in CA, with a mandatory minimum if used for self-defense, again, only in CA.

- cite?

or remember where you saw that?

RWebb 08-25-2009 05:33 PM

Lubey: "We make some killer bug spray - I swear it could be used as a chemical weapon!"

- as a matter of fact, most of them are. wasp spray is usually a neurotoxin -- and that goes for humans too.

Tobra 08-25-2009 07:02 PM

Yup, had a job mixing insecticide once, had the same stab yourself in the leg thing they have for chem warfare in the military
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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 4857194)
dude, that's over the top...

Now if we were talking sharks, ok... but laser wasps.. no,
10 000 lasers is just asking for trouble. And not energy efficient.

you want the bees shooting out of the mouth of the shark with the laser beams on his head
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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 4857821)
- cite?

or remember where you saw that?

pretty sure it is written on the can

RWebb 08-25-2009 08:07 PM

ok, if Rick is talking about the prohibition on the can, I'm pretty sure it is not a crime -- a lower level type offense

there to prevent kids from inhaling, and various other types of misuse of a pesticide

WilsonTC 08-25-2009 08:29 PM

Hmm...doesn't say anything about wasp spray...but then again, pretty much anything is illegal in CA, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was some obscure paragraph elsewhere in the Penal Code about spraying people with chemicals...dirty commies.

California Penal Code Section 12403.7

Notwithstanding any other law, any person may purchase,
possess, or use tear gas and tear gas weapons for the projection or
release of tear gas if the tear gas and tear gas weapons are used
solely for self-defense purposes, subject to the following
requirements:
(a) No person convicted of a felony or any crime involving an
assault under the laws of the United States, the State of California,
or any other state, government, or country or convicted of misuse of
tear gas under subdivision (g) shall purchase, possess, or use tear
gas or tear gas weapons.
(b) No person who is addicted to any narcotic drug shall purchase,
possess, or use tear gas or tear gas weapons.
(c) No person shall sell or furnish any tear gas or tear gas
weapon to a minor.
(d) No person who is a minor shall purchase, possess, or use tear
gas or tear gas weapons.
(e) (1) No person shall purchase, possess, or use any tear gas
weapon that expels a projectile, or that expels the tear gas by any
method other than an aerosol spray, or that contains more than 2.5
ounces net weight of aerosol spray.
(2) Every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be
lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant to this section
shall have a label that states: "WARNING: The use of this substance
or device for any purpose other than self-defense is a crime under
the law. The contents are dangerous--use with care."
(3) After January 1, 1984, every tear gas container and tear gas
weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant
to this section shall have a label that discloses the date on which
the useful life of the tear gas weapon expires.
(4) Every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be
lawfully purchased pursuant to this section shall be accompanied at
the time of purchase by printed instructions for use.
(f) Effective March 1, 1994, every tear gas container and tear gas
weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant
to this section shall be accompanied by an insert including
directions for use, first aid information, safety and storage
information, and explanation of the legal ramifications of improper
use of the tear gas container or tear gas product.
(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in
self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by
imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years
or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed
one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment,
except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in
Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2,
engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the
person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that
the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by
imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or
by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and
imprisonment.

on2wheels52 08-26-2009 02:57 AM

A friend of mine keeps a 12 ga flare gun in his truck for defensive purposes. His description on white phosphorus on flesh wasn't very nice.
Jim

adrian jaye 08-26-2009 03:39 AM

snopes rates this as a MIXTURE

not true not false


however, I did bite :)

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Originally Posted by WilsonTC (Post 4857005)
LOL. This post smelled of a "Snopes" moment. It's amazing how these e-mails continue to make the rounds (and even more amazing that people keep posting them).

Screw the wasp spray or standard "O.C."...I keep a can of this at my shop and one in my truck:

http://www.securityandsafetysupply.c...er_spray_1.jpg


WilsonTC 08-26-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by on2wheels52 (Post 4858405)
A friend of mine keeps a 12 ga flare gun in his truck for defensive purposes. His description on white phosphorus on flesh wasn't very nice.
Jim

Only problem is a flare gun doesn't have a flat trajectory. You have to be almost point-blank to hit your target. Out of curiosity (boredom?) I fired one out my back door toward a 10' concrete wall (about 30' away). I aimed dead-center at the wall (about 5' from the ground). Whoooossshhh...Well, lo & behold, the flare immediately curved upward and cleared the wall, whizzing through the (busy) parking lot of the church next door. :eek: I don't think I hit anyone, but I'm sure more than a few folks probably had to change their underwear.

Roosterrusek 08-26-2009 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonTC (Post 4858524)
Only problem is a flare gun doesn't have a flat trajectory. You have to be almost point-blank to hit your target. Out of curiosity (boredom?) I fired one out my back door toward a 10' concrete wall (about 30' away). I aimed dead-center at the wall (about 5' from the ground). Whoooossshhh...Well, lo & behold, the flare immediately curved upward and cleared the wall, whizzing through the (busy) parking lot of the church next door. :eek: I don't think I hit anyone, but I'm sure more than a few folks probably had to change their underwear.

"I don't think I hit anyone, but I'm sure more than a few folks probably had to change their underwear."

Isn't this the point in the first place? I think it would be even more awesome to have literally scared the crap out of them than an actual wounding.

"Look...I made him shiat his pants"......they come out with a product that can make someone do that, I'm first in line.

cgarr 08-26-2009 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonTC (Post 4858524)
Well, lo & behold, the flare immediately curved upward and cleared the wall, whizzing through the (busy) parking lot of the church next door. :eek: I don't think I hit anyone, but I'm sure more than a few folks probably had to change their underwear.

Try putting some tail fins on it next time and see how she flies!

m21sniper 08-26-2009 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by on2wheels52 (Post 4858405)
A friend of mine keeps a 12 ga flare gun in his truck for defensive purposes. His description on white phosphorus on flesh wasn't very nice.
Jim

Flare guns are not effective self defense tools.

svandamme 08-26-2009 08:11 AM

probably better off with one of those flare sticks...the sort cops throw on the road for accidents at night...
stuff one of those in the perp's pants... turn on phonecamera to get that happy dance on youtube.

on2wheels52 08-26-2009 02:44 PM

"Flare guns are not effective self defense tools."

I certainly agree. Given that he only expects to use it against a carjacker, I assume he thinks it would give him a (legal) leg to stand on if it is discovered in his vehicle in an area where handguns are forbidden.
Jim


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