The end of File Sharing ?!

[nostatic]

Oh sure, some furriner telling me how Dutch sounds Swedish. Next thing you'll tell me about how your desserts are better than apple pie and how the Swiss make better chocolate than the Hershey bar I'm eating right now.

And Brussels? Isn't that where they grow the sprouts? Vegetables suck! Except Freedom Fries!

[BlueSkyJaunte]

I'll forever be pissed at Belgium, after all you guys stole John M. Browning from us.

Looks like the baby is settling down, so if any of you want to get back to arguing and throwing barbs, I'm game.

[Cdnone1]

You guys are all talking around the point.
If you boil it down it comes to this!
I own this. I paid for it. I don't want you to have it unless you pay for it. You take it anyways, without my permission.
That's theft. Period.

All your complaining is just trying to justify your stealing.

No body can survive a business plan where people can just steal your product anytime they want.

Last time.
It's my property not yours. I don't want to give it to you for free! If you take it without paying you are stealing from me!

Thanks a lot!

Steve

[Highlander179]

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/court-castrates-mininova-the-pirate-bay-alternative/

[gprsh924]

Originally Posted by Highlander179

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/court-castrates-mininova-the-pirate-bay-alternative/

What no answer for this after your earlier tone?

http://www.ascap.com/licensing/licensingfaq.html

[Highlander179]

Originally Posted by gprsh924

What no answer for this after your earlier tone?

http://www.ascap.com/licensing/licensingfaq.html

You really need me to read your stupid crap? What kinda jackass are you?

edit: I think you're taking this internet thing too seriously. step away from the keyboard

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Damned Bimmer weenies.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Cdnone1

You guys are all talking around the point.
If you boil it down it comes to this!
I own this. I paid for it. I don't want you to have it unless you pay for it. You take it anyways, without my permission.
That's theft. Period.

All your complaining is just trying to justify your stealing.

No body can survive a business plan where people can just steal your product anytime they want.

Last time.
It's my property not yours. I don't want to give it to you for free! If you take it without paying you are stealing from me!

Thanks a lot!

Steve

Sorry Steve, but it has become clear we are arguing morality with the immoral. In their world, if they want it, they can take it. Simple as that for them. I bet their mothers taught them that at the train stations and bus depots when they were little, and still pinching wallets and purses.

[Izze]

Originally Posted by svandamme

Flemish does not sound like french at all, it's a Dialect of Dutch, wich is close to German, and the dialect actually sounds a bit like Swedish... Not french...

Flemish is the strangest language. Sounds very odd, but here and there perfect Swedish words suddenly pops out, very disturbing.

When will we Swedes receive royalty for the words you stole from us?

[svandamme]

you stole it from US!
Like i told Livi, you Swedes do get a little bit lippy from time to time.

[Izze]

Originally Posted by svandamme

you stole it from US!
Like i told Livi, you Swedes do get a little bit lippy from time to time.

Nah, it was actually in disguise a compliment to the Flemish language.
Guess no royalty coming in my general direction

...and yes i believe the US stole the pirate bay from our servers last week, damn

[spuggy]

I doubt that I owned more than 100 or so CD's 10 years ago, and I had no real sense that I was missing out on any music I wanted to listen to.

I now have 48 days of songs on my iPod, and storing the CD's is getting awkward. I buy more CD's all the time.

Digital music availability has produced a monster, together with the ability to browse discography websites and discover/buy obscure releases released in other markets you never knew existed before.

Heck, even very obscure material is being commercially released that has never previously been available.

The music industry isn't dying, but I think it's having some difficulty convincing some people that a mainstream pressed CD is worth $15.

Which could be viewed as justifiable skepticism, considering that commercial replication services charge ~30c for a pressed silver CD with printing on the disk and a jewel case front insert on orders of 10,000 e.g.: http://www.newcyberian.com/

[MrScott]

If it were as black and white as some here argue there should be/would be no time limit on copyright; the intent of time limits is to strike a fair balance between compensation for the creator and benefit to the consumers, without whom the creator could not be compensated.

The mob of illegal downloaders is a reaction to what, apparently the majority of consumers believe is an unfair balance. They did not create this situation, they are reacting to it; the recording industry (which is now arguing 'compensation') did and I wonder where in their morality personal accountability lies.

I think we all agree no one should profit from someone else's work without compensating them, so limiting the discussion to personal use, a sincere question for those advocating strict copyright law: Should every guy who builds an RS replica in his garage pay royalties to Porsche for that design?

[emcon5]

This is mildly amusing:
http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=138587#=rss2534

Media Cos.' Best Customers: Those Who Steal Their Content
Mike Vorhaus on Digital Communications

by Mike Vorhaus
Published: August 24, 2009

Historically, an easy way to stoke the ire of a major media executive was to start talking about the surge in peer-to-peer file distribution.

Now, we do lots of research at Frank N. Magid Associates to take the pulse of various media channels for customers, and recently a P2P company, Vuze, hired us to find out how its users' media habits compare with those of the average internet user. When we did, we found that those media execs may not have cause for all the quaking. (While we conducted the study on behalf of a client, I assure you we used the same sound, time-tested methods we use for any of our in-house, proprietary research.)

We compared a random set of Vuze users with a national sample of internet users ages 18 to 44, and results revealed that users of P2P technology spend considerable money on traditional media and entertainment. They are, in fact, important and valued customers of the traditional media companies. Our survey shows that the P2P user attends 34% more movies in theaters, purchases 34% more DVDs and rents 24% more movies than the average internet user. The P2P user owns more HDTVs and is more likely to own a high-def-DVD player, too.

It's clear that it's not just about free content. P2P users are important to the revenue model of traditional media and entertainment companies.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Impossible. Everyone knows file sharers are immoral thieves and all-around scoundrels who should be pilloried in the town square.

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

Impossible. Everyone knows file sharers are immoral thieves and all-around scoundrels who should be pilloried in the town square.

I admit I find it curious that music was not mentioned.