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red-beard 10-08-2009 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4942044)
Even conservatives can learn.:cool:
I am a freedom loving American.

Superman 10-08-2009 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4942059)
Drug users are less reliable employees. Check.
Drug users don't have a problem breaking the law. Check
Drug users under the influence have impared judgement. Check.
Pot smokers are dumbed out mush-heads. check.
Union supporter claiming all the above facts aren't true. check.
Your reading comprehension skills need work. Still.

Superman 10-08-2009 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4942112)
I am a freedom loving American.
Indeed. Our areas of agreement are probably broader than we know. I'd be delighted to buy you a beer and I suspect we would enjoy the chat.

Moses 10-08-2009 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4942319)
Indeed. Our areas of agreement are probably broader than we know. I'd be delighted to buy you a beer and I suspect we would enjoy the chat.
I'm calling Obama. Beer summit II.

JKelley 10-08-2009 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 4905579)
I know that drugs are bad, mmmkay. What if I went to Mexico where small amounts are legal and happen to try some pot for the first time. I then get tested here in the US by my employer and test positive. Any opinion on the outcome?
I would suggest giving them a clean sample, not yours. Enough said.

bivenator 10-08-2009 01:32 PM
Again, I'm not concerned about failing a drug test. My question was, and is becoming more relevent with the legalization climate in California, how can a drug test differentiate between legal use and illegal use.
What about illegal use of legal drugs, vicodin, adderall come to mind.

Superman 10-08-2009 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 4942390)
Again, I'm not concerned about failing a drug test. My question was, and is becoming more relevent with the legalization climate in California, how can a drug test differentiate between legal use and illegal use.
What about illegal use of legal drugs, vicodin, adderall come to mind.
If those drugs are in your system, you will be asked for prescription information and that information will be verified. No prescription, you fail.

Medical MJ also does not cut it. First, they can distinguish smoked pot from Marinal. Second, the MRO's I have dealt with are not impressed by a MJ prescription. Even with a Px, they will declare your test "positive."

Superman 10-08-2009 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 4942326)
I'm calling Obama. Beer summit II.
That's a GREAT idea. I've been practicing every evening, and I think I'm ready.

Moses 10-08-2009 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4942439)
That's a GREAT idea. I've been practicing every evening, and I think I'm ready.
I was in Seattle yesterday. I was going to call you and maybe grab a beer but they ended up booking me on a flight last night. Maybe next time!

red-beard 10-08-2009 02:31 PM
I've already said, I wan't to make Superman Surgeon General, or maybe the head of the Federal Boob Inspectors, if I'm elected President.

gprsh924 10-08-2009 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4942059)
Drug users are less reliable employees. Check.
Drug users don't have a problem breaking the law. Check
Drug users under the influence have impared judgement. Check.
Pot smokers are dumbed out mush-heads. check.
Union supporter claiming all the above facts aren't true. check.
I have a question for you sammy...do you judge a guy who smokes one joint a week on a saturday night differently than a guy who has a few cocktails every saturday night?

gr8fl4porsche 10-08-2009 03:55 PM
I have had employees with prescriptions for pain killers denied access to job sites - when you test dirty for opiates you are out - regardless of why you use them.

This is at industrial sites with 1200 page safety manuals that even the author has never read.

Makes sense though, do you really want the crane operator popping vickies all day long?

bivenator 10-08-2009 05:22 PM
Thanks for the answers Supe and gr8fl.

JeremyD 10-08-2009 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4942043)
They can now distinguish. Poppy seeds no longer trigger a 'positive for heroin' result.

Drug tests are hard to fool these days.

If your creatinine level is wacky, there is a medical reason. See a doctor, and have that doctor communicate with the Medical Review Officer who is responsible for declaring your test "positive." The MRO will reverse the positive to a negative. Or just eat more red meat and don't drink so much water.
Actually had one of these a few years ago in Georgia. Guy was an eagle scout and ate two poppy seed bagels everyday. They retested the sample and determined that it "may" have been caused by poppyseed bagels based on the levels - but it was right on the cusp.

HardDrive 10-08-2009 05:57 PM
I always make sure my potential employers and I are on the same page by sparking a blunt during the interview.

m21sniper 10-08-2009 06:09 PM
I've had a few employers over the years ask me upon hiring, "How long do you need before we do the drug test?"


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