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Leland Pate 10-13-2009 07:22 PM

I'm getting a Vizsla!
 
Well after several years of perpetual delay, I finally decided to take the plunge and get myself a real hunting dog. To date, my attempts at getting my wife's mini schnauzer to point birds... actually to point anything have proved fruitless.

I have long decided that a Vizsla fits my needs perfectly for a companion as well as a bird hunting partner. They are one of the most beautiful breeds out there in my opinion and I am really excited. I found a reputable breeder about two hours away from me and have been on his waiting list. A litter was born last month and I will drive out there and pick out a baby girl on the 24th and go back to bring her home on November 7th.

Have any of you ever raised a gun dog? I'm a little intimidated by the concept of training a dog as it requires a tremendous amount of time and energy. But, right now (no kids) I have the time and figure I should strike while the iron's hot.

:)

Vizslas are a really neat breed with a fascinating history... a graceful and athletic dog in a relatively small package... But now I'm just bragging.


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Shaun @ Tru6 10-13-2009 07:25 PM

These are phenomenal dogs! I had a neighbor in Chicago who had one the same time I was raising my lab-rott mix. They got along great, very social, very smart, tons of personality.

Congratulations!

Leland Pate 10-13-2009 07:28 PM

I shouldn't bag on the Schnauzer too much... I love him dearly too... but he is more of a cat in a dogs body.

Here is Eli.

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nostatic 10-13-2009 07:40 PM

ping lowyder993. I think he has some vizslas that he hunts with.

One of my favorite breeds...

Shaun @ Tru6 10-13-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leland Pate (Post 4951418)
I shouldn't bag on the Schnauzer too much... I love him dearly too... but he is more of a cat in a dogs body.


Funny/sad story of how I got my dog. My mom must get us Christmas gifts. My gf and I were going to get pound pup anyway, so we told her: big dog, female, mutt, rough and tumble sort of animal that is more at home running in the woods than anywhere else. I grew up rural and we always had 4 dogs that were with us in fields, ponds, woods, everywhere.

We come home for Christmas. of course my mom can't hide her excitement, she runs up and gets a little carrier. We open it up and what do we find? A little pure bread miniature schnauzer. The exact opposite of what we wanted: fru-fru yappy dog that needs a special haircut. We tried for 3 days to love the dog but it wasn't happening. I would have rather gotten a cat (our cats used to bring home 5 foot black snakes and leave them on the steps).

So looking in the papers, we found a few litters, went and visited the first one and went against every single rule when it comes to buying a dog like a rott mix...too young, house was a mess, no vet care of any kind.... Father was the biggest Rottweiler you've ever seen. Was in back yard. When he saw us in the kitchen window, came running through yard and thought he was going to come through the window. Mom was a more reasonable lab-rott mix herself, sweet dog. We took home a pure black little fluffball. Best dog in the world, she passed away last fall. I miss her terribly and might get another next year.

My mom kept Max, the little schnauzer dog who would run behind the couch and bark whenever you came in the house.

willtel 10-13-2009 07:46 PM

Congratulations. I have two GSPs, very similar breeds, mine aren't working dogs. Get yourself a good e-collar and several buckets of patience...

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bell 10-13-2009 08:14 PM

E-collars are great when you need them, my dad had to use one on his late golden retriever because she loved swimming....so much that when they'd go to the lake she'd try to swim across....a short press of the button and she'd swim back LOL

That first pic is awesome leland :)

tswaney 10-13-2009 08:18 PM

Congratulations!

I have hunted behind 4 Viszlas over the years. One was a world class sprinter out too far!
Great on the point and finding down/dead birds. They've been a joy in quail/pheasant camp and in the field.

RIP: Jake, Jack.

Dottore 10-13-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leland Pate (Post 4951418)
I shouldn't bag on the Schnauzer too much... I love him dearly too... but he is more of a cat in a dogs body.

Here is Eli.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1255487324.jpg

That dog is sweet! And you nailed it: Mini Schnauzers are really cats in a dog's body. Here's ours:



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stomachmonkey 10-13-2009 08:33 PM

They are incredibly smart and highly trainable but seriously, point with a Schnauzer?

They are ratters. I think their prey drive is way to high for pointing.

Vizsla, nice choice.

Don't be surprised if the Schnauzer runs the show.

Shaun, your mom had a wimpy one. Mine pound for pound was by far the fiercest animal I've ever owned.

And yes I did forget to call you. Sorry.

Will do in the morning on the ride in.

VincentVega 10-13-2009 08:49 PM

I had a GSP, very similar to a Vizsla, and he was a good dog. Make sure you have fresh running shoes, they need lot's of exercise. I still think the dog was smarter than me, really impressive bread.

Geronimo '74 10-13-2009 11:27 PM

This pic is great!! Looks like a really nice dog, have fun!!

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Originally Posted by Leland Pate (Post 4951406)


porsche4life 10-13-2009 11:33 PM

Why Vizla and not Lab?

aigel 10-13-2009 11:39 PM

I recommend you get this book:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Help-Dogs-Train-Themselves/dp/0963012703

It is an excellent early development book. There isn't much real training you do in the first 5 months, but the conditioning you can do is very important.

Have fun!

George

slakjaw 10-14-2009 01:22 AM

I miss my dog Buck. He is a Choc lab, I left him with my mom when I moved here.

willtel 10-14-2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 4951714)
Why Vizla and not Lab?

Labs are like the tan Camry of the dog world, everyone and their brother has one.

Labs are also flushers so the tempo and style of the hunt will be different than being with a pointer. I think most of it just comes down to personal preference and what type of terrain you hunt in.

Leland Pate 10-14-2009 06:39 AM

Thanks guys! I'm really looking forward to her.

Quote:

They are incredibly smart and highly trainable but seriously, point with a Schnauzer?
Sorry, it was my attempt at humor. Eli doesn't even care for treats. You can't do much with a dog that can't even be bribed with food.

spyderman 10-14-2009 07:03 AM

Congrats!
 
Vizslas are beautiful dogs. I'd be tempted to get one, if I wasn't so enamored with Brittney Spaniels. Very similar in abilities and personalties. Your "little girl" will be loads of fun if you take the time up front.

My two girls after a day in the field.

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lowyder993s 10-14-2009 07:32 AM

Did somebody say Vizsla???:)

They are great dogs, I got mine after I had to put down my GSP and my lab. My wife didn't want a dog as hi-strung as a GSP...pfffttt!!!! Mine were very easy to train, alot of it is just playing w/ them...they'll blossom as they start figuring out what you want of them. E-collar is a must in my opinion. I was dead set against them till I nearly lost my GSP after he broke a pheasant and went across a road w/ a car coming...don't know how he didn't get plastered. Usually only takes 1 or 2 times and they remember.
Start looking around for a pheasant or game bird farm. Take a drive out there, see if you can get some wings. Keep them in the freezer...I'd take them out and hide them in the back yard...you'll be amazed at how quickly they figure out they're supposed to find them. Tie 1 on the end of some fishing line. Keep pulling it away till the dog starts putting the sneak on it. This will help bring out their pointing instincts. I also go to the feed store in town. They have live pigeons. I'll get 6 or 8 of them. Tuck their head under a wing...holding the wing over the head, turn them upside down and spin them around. It puts them to sleep and you can hide them wherever you're training. Keeping the dog on a check cord, let her go up and find the bird. Don't let her get it. You can put a foot underneath the bird and nudge it...it'll wake up and fly off. That's how I train w/ live birds in So. Cal. Too far to go to get to a shooting area or to find wild birds. YMMV living where you do.
Work her constantly, ALWAYS keeping it fun. She'll backslide...but she'll also make huge leaps. You'll have a real sense of pride and accomplishment when you are out in the field working together. Of course, any questions...PM me, Goat or 911mnypt. Now to show off a little too::rolleyes:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1255530609.jpg
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LeeH 10-14-2009 07:40 AM

I'm getting Vizsla today, too! In fact, he should arrive any minute now. But he's just a rental. Board member Jeff is kind enough to loan me his crazy dog on occaision... Jeff will even take his family on vacation just to make it seem like there's a good reason to let Mojo spend a few night with us. What a guy!

DARISC 10-14-2009 08:08 AM

Great lookin' dawg - damn near purty as my Kentucky Rednecks.

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dipso 10-14-2009 08:36 AM

Vizsla
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Vizsla peeking over the German short haired pointer.
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Vizsla playing.
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gwood 10-14-2009 10:58 AM

That's a great looking pup.

You probably can't learn dog training from a book, but a lot of people like "Bond of Passion" by Web Parton.

There are many Vizsla owners in the North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association. Might be worth checking out.

goat 10-14-2009 11:03 AM

Welcome to the club.
I have had many and they are great hunting dogs. Very sensitive so very different to train verses a German Shorthair, or other types.
After hunting all day this is what you can look forward too.

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And I tend to take the girl on behaved porsche rides.


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and Kobi.


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Best story I have is at Vizsla National championships in 98 Took my dog hunting at 5am got a few quail then had to run to the show wiped the mud off with a wet towel all of 20 seconds, made it to the ring. got second place. The judge said I would have won but she seemed a little low on energy. sporting breeds are great.

lowyder993s 10-14-2009 11:12 AM

Great story and pix Tim. Sums up the breed perfectly!

nostatic 10-14-2009 11:32 AM

The first time I saw a Vizsla was up at a park near the water in Berkeley. We had our Boxer pup there and there were two Vizslas that were running...and running...and running...and running.

I thought Boxers were spring-loaded, but Vizslas are ridiculous. Seems like you'd need a good sized yard and really need to work them regularly. Though I suppose that goes for any of the sporting breeds...

rammstein 10-14-2009 12:17 PM

You are going to have a lot of fun with that dog. Because you understand that you have training ahead of you, I have no doubt you'll have a GREAT dog. I wonder what would happen if I took my greyhounds hunting?

pwd72s 10-14-2009 12:32 PM

I see a Montana Chukkar hunting trip in your future. :D

lowyder993s 10-14-2009 12:36 PM

Opens Sat. here!

Rikao4 10-14-2009 01:00 PM

+1 ,
they have so much energy..
you best start training....
a walk around the block does not cut it..
and when your wheezing on the ground ..
they are just getting started..
on occasion I run into 2 of these in the fields were I go..
my 2 young Labs cannot maintain their level..
I do about 5 miles everyday..
rain or shine.

Rika

wolf76 10-14-2009 03:52 PM

Congratulations. We have a 4 year old Weimaraner. He is the best dog I have ever had. Absolute sweet heart and great with the family. He does require a lot of exercise. Fortunately my wife is a runner and takes him along so he's usually pretty relaxed.



Chris

willtel 10-14-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goat (Post 4952414)
And I tend to take the girl on behaved porsche rides.


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Mine have only been in my car a few times but they like it. One goes on the folded back seat and one up front. The white one doesn't like the engine rumbling under her so she gets the seat.

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stomachmonkey 10-14-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammstein (Post 4952552)
I wonder what would happen if I took my greyhounds hunting?

Well if not trained they'd take off after the first thing they saw and you'll probably never see them again.

911mnypt 10-14-2009 04:13 PM

You got to love those dogs...they are such lovable slobs! As Goat can contest to, they are really big lap dogs. Remember, never spoil your Vizsla.

Angus needs a nap after Mt. Quail hunting
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goat 10-14-2009 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 4952634)
+1 ,
they have so much energy..
you best start training....
a walk around the block does not cut it..
and when your wheezing on the ground ..
they are just getting started..
on occasion I run into 2 of these in the fields were I go..
my 2 young Labs cannot maintain their level..
I do about 5 miles everyday..
rain or shine.

Rika

So true. I have many people always asking me "how I can get one?" When I tell how much exercise they get people just don't believe me, and so many end up in rescue.
To say the least they have kept me very trim.

Leland Pate 11-03-2009 03:33 PM

Here are some pics of my girl, Anya, at 5 weeks old. I pick her up this Friday afternoon and bring her home.

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azasadny 11-03-2009 05:53 PM

Congrats! Great dog!!

LeeH 11-03-2009 09:38 PM

Maybe you should have paid a bit more an picked up one with a pulse. :D

lowyder993s 11-16-2009 09:39 AM

Back from a week of bird hunting...dogs did better than me:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1258393132.jpg
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Superman 11-16-2009 01:00 PM

Visla is the "Porsche 911" of dog breeds.


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