4 months in prison....for a Batman knife.

[HardDrive]

Of couse were not talking about here in the US, its another wonderful example of life in the Nanny State.

Batman knife lands man in prison - Wigan Today

Incredible.

[Jeff Higgins]

We are not immune from this. Remember the discussion we had just recently? About the poor kid suspended from grade school and sentenced to reform school for bringing his Boy Scout multi-tool to school? He was proud of it, and wanted to eat lunch with it. Several of our resident witless hand-wringing ninnies actually defended that. How do you think this nonsense gets started? By the way, carry a knife with a blade any longer than Batman's here in Seattle, and you will go to jail as well.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Of couse were not talking about here in the US, its another wonderful example of life in the Nanny State.

Batman knife lands man in prison - Wigan Today

Incredible.

Wait, did you read the article? It sounds like a 19 year old kid was carrying a knife like the one in the picture below "for protection".


It's a "real" knife in that it's made of sturdy metal (not a kids plastic batman knife) and is sharp and the kid was carrying it to potentially use.

It's not really the same as a 13 year old with a plastic knife getting 4 months or a 70 year old knife collector on the way to a knife show getting arrested.

I'm not commenting on the punishment, what I'm commenting on is that it sounds like this kid was asking for trouble and got it.


Here are some stories that are actually ridiculous.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565520,00.html

Fortunately, it sounds like the school board changed their mind about the 6 year old Cub Scout that was headed to Juvie.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33289924/ns/today-today_people/

Yesterday he faced 45 days in reform school. This morning, Zachary Christie is on his way to school for the first time since he made the mistake of taking his favorite camping utensil to school and ran into his Delaware school system's zero-tolerance policy.

On Tuesday night the school board made a hasty change to its code of conduct. The seven-member board voted unanimously to reduce the punishment for kindergartners and first-graders who bring weapons to school or commit other violent offenses to a suspension ranging from three to five days.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

The UK is run by a bunch of idiots. No other way to describe it.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

The UK is run by a bunch of idiots. No other way to describe it.

Aint that the truth. A camera everywhere to record your every movement, you drive a car in London and are 1 day late on paying for the $20 a day fee to drive there and their computers find you and send officers out to haul you to jail.

Sorry but I love England (Mom was from the UK) but I could never live there again...

[Moses]

Originally Posted by masraum

I'm not commenting on the punishment, what I'm commenting on is that it sounds like this kid was asking for trouble and got it.

Carrying a knife is asking for trouble? What a colossal group of pussies we have have become.

[The Gaijin]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Aint that the truth....

Sorry but I love England (Mom was from the UK) but I could never live there again...

Yup me too. Are these really the people that ran an empire and laughed off the blitz?

From today's WSJ:

STILTON, England -- This small hamlet shares its name with a famous curd. But under European Union law, it's illegal to make Stilton cheese in Stilton.

The bar on producing Stilton cheese here is a curious consequence of EU efforts to protect revered local foods by limiting the geographical area where they can be made...

English Village Tries to Milk a Connection to Its Cheesy Past - WSJ.com

I thought they stopped taking orders from these continental types after Waterloo?

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Moses

Carrying a knife is asking for trouble? What a colossal group of pussies we have have become.

Walk anywhere in London and if you have a pocket knife you WILL be arrested.

[The Gaijin]

And a call to ban kitchen knives. You can't make this **** up. Orwell must be spinning.


"A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings...

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all..."

BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call

[HardDrive]

Insane.

Whats next? A ban on pointy sticks? Cricket? Can have people walking around with wicket bats, the could be used as a weapon?

Originally Posted by The Gaijin

And a call to ban kitchen knives. You can't make this **** up. Orwell must be spinning.


"A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings...

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all..."

BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Moses

Carrying a knife is asking for trouble? What a colossal group of pussies we have have become.

+1

If you ask me, not carrying a means of self defense is what's asking for trouble...

[Stuart993]

HardDrive, why were you looking at a Wigan website?

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Walk anywhere in London and if you have a pocket knife you WILL be arrested.

Don't be bringing logic into play!

When you live in a country where knives are all but universally banned, and you are carrying not just a knife, but a doubled bladed knife of some significant size, and you are carrying it with the intention of using it as a weapon, then you have zero right to whine when you are arrested.

That knife would be illegal to carry in MANY US states.

[willtel]

I understand some of the concern from you guys but you also need to understand that the UK is quite different than the US as far as knife crime is concerned. Guns aren't nearly as plentiful over there so knives have become the choice of thugs and punks and the UK certainly has no shortage of those. Hell, they have actually considered banning pint glasses in pubs because of people being "glassed" and disfigured or killed in bar fights.

Many of the crimes are also committed by teens against other teens. Over here we have thugs with 9s and over there they use knives, it is simply a different culture.

Originally Posted by telegraph.co.uk

The full extent of stabbings and robberies at knifepoint is made clear in the country's first census of knife crime.

Police recorded 5,023 serious knife crimes in England and Wales in the first three months after they began to count the offences as a separate crime category last spring. It is equivalent to about 400 offences per week.

The highest rate is in London, where every resident has a one-in-1,100 chance of falling victim over the course of a year.

Londoners stand more chance of being stabbed or robbed at knifepoint than of being killed or seriously injured in a road accident.

Manchester and Birmingham are near the top of the league with shire counties having much lower rates of knife crime. However, Bedfordshire, a predominantly rural county, reports the third-worst rate.

The findings give the clearest picture yet of the extent of the "knife culture" on the nation's streets. The statistics, compiled in line with Home Office instructions, include only such serious offences as attempted murder, wounding and knifepoint robbery.

Totals would have been higher had ministers not told forces to exclude thousands of less serious offences, including possession of knives and stabbings that caused only minor injuries.

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: "These shocking figures betray the desperate state of violent crime under this Government. The Home Secretary says violent crime is down, but the figures show almost three serious knife crimes committed every hour. Labour's denial of the problem is part of the problem."

Until April, official statistics counted knife offences with other assaults involving weapons, making it harder to detect emerging trends.

Police began to keep a separate tally of serious knife crimes after a series of high-profile stabbings earlier this year.

Kodjo Yenga, 16, a youth team footballer with Queens Park Rangers, was killed in Hammersmith, west London, in March. Three days later, Adam Regis, 15, the nephew of John Regis, the former Olympic sprinter, died in Plaistow, east London.

The new figures were obtained from 37 of the 43 forces in England and Wales under the Freedom of Information Act. The remaining six, mostly smaller forces, said they were unable to provide data.

Adjusting for the missing areas, and adding in an estimated 50 knife murders which were excluded under Home Office counting rules, there were an estimated 5,450 serious knife offences during the three-month period, equivalent to one offence every 24 minutes or more than 21,000 over a full year.

Police in Bedfordshire said the figures were high because crime levels in Luton, the biggest town, were on a par with parts of London. Luton has the fourth-highest immigration rate of any town outside London, and a senior police officer claimed that the trend was fuelling crime.

Chief Supt Nicky Dahl said: "Knife crime is a real concern. There is a culture of young people carrying knives and we need to change that culture.

"When the census was taken in 2001, we had a population of 180,000. It is now far in excess of that. More than 2,500 Poles alone have arrived, with many arrested for drinking and violent offences."

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

+1

If you ask me, not carrying a means of self defense is what's asking for trouble...

I grew up a Boy Scout and with that meant carrying a knife with me. Also had a folding Schrade before that.

Still carry a small knife in my pocket. Not planning on changing anytime soon.

[Moses]

The high rate of stabbings in Britain is the best reason I can think of for carrying a big ****** knife.

[looneybin]

does that knife have an automatic blade, or does it fold.
auto blades and butterfly knives are against the law on the left coast, ask me how i know

[nynor]

Originally Posted by Moses

Carrying a knife is asking for trouble? What a colossal group of pussies we have have become.

amen.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by willtel

I understand some of the concern from you guys but you also need to understand that the UK is quite different than the US as far as knife crime is concerned. Guns aren't nearly as plentiful over there so knives have become the choice of thugs and punks and the UK certainly has no shortage of those. Hell, they have actually considered banning pint glasses in pubs because of people being "glassed" and disfigured or killed in bar fights.

Many of the crimes are also committed by teens against other teens. Over here we have thugs with 9s and over there they use knives, it is simply a different culture.

start the 'knife control', everyone is mandated to turn in their knives. then i will be 'cricket bat' control, etc.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by looneybin

does that knife have an automatic blade, or does it fold.
auto blades and butterfly knives are against the law on the left coast, ask me how i know

My understanding is that they are legal everywhere if you have one arm.
Used to be, at least.