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Cahs 4 Clunkers List - Some Amazing Vehicles Destroyed!
No 911 Porsches but:
Cash-for-Clunkers program looked in for fraud, per Iowa Senator | Mibz.com (6) Porsche 928 including (2) S4 (4) Gen. IV Supras (5,000+) Mercedes-Benz including (142) SL, (3) S600, a 1994 E500 (crying), a 1992 500E (more crying), 1995 C36 and 1999 C43 (3,500+) BMWs including an M3, M5, Z3, 850i and (3) 740il Buick Grand National! GMC Typhoon Aston MArtin DB7, Bentley Continental R WTF! Yasin
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These 2 guys need an azz kickin!
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Well at least 97 Corvettes were taken off the roads.....
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A DB7 is not a great car, but wow. Still hand made.
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I like 928's, but these where probably not very good examples, and could of had huge maintence bills ahead of them far in excess of the sell value of the car even if it was fixed.
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But an S4 should be worth more the C4C payout in parts...
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are they supposed to be runners?
or can you just let one roll off a trailer for trade in?
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You touched on it...this goes beyond value alone. It has reduced the parts supply for the old car hobbyist.
(edit) I'm sure the anti-car politicians were well aware of this.
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Yep. That's six less 928 engines and parts cars out there to keep the rest of them going.'
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liquid glass? don't they just scrap and recycle the metals?
EDIT, found it on the interwebz... man, them cars really die when they do that to em...
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Worry not, Snipe...soon we'll all love our tiny electric cars...Oh-BAM-ah will see to that. Remember, in the end, Winston truly loved Big Brother...
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Nope...dealers were required to pour some toxic crap in the crankcase, making the engine parts worthless...then off to the crusher.
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Let's not overestimate what "cool" but elderly cars are worth, especially if they are in trashed-out condition.
For example, the OP listed a 1992 Mercedes 500E and added "crying". According to Edmunds, that thing has a trade-in value of appx $3,500 and a private party value of appx $4,500. What might it be worth in lousy shape, trashed paint, >200K miles, etc? You can easily see where a 1992 500E could be well worth "clunking" with no tears at all. Similarly with the BMWs, Toyota Supras, even the Porsche 928s, etc. The Bentley Continental R and Aston Martin DB7, those must have a story behind it because it is hard to imagine them worth <$4,500 while still registered and driveable. I'll speculate those are fraud cases (a totaled or non-runner car) or a combination of rich + fool. What I see is that the reporter searched the entire database of 677,000 clunked cars looking for seemingly-desirable cars to write a story about, and that OP shows the best of what he found. Out of 677,000, it isn't much of a list. So one unloved and probably trashed-out 1985 Quattroporte got scrapped - so what?
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It doesn't matter what they were worth. Those cars were treasure troves of parts. And now they're gone.
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Six 928s were scrapped in the program. 61,056 units of 928 were made. So, 0.0001 of all 928s made were scrapped in the program, and that makes the slightest difference? Laughable.
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So was C4C.
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We live in a consumer society w/ zillions of ultimately disposable vehicle sold every year. Every car on that list could be found in the junkyard before c4c ever was conceived. Every time I go to the self-serve junk yard in L.A., I'm amazed at the clean MB/BMW/Range Rovers/etc. in the yard. Once they're 10-12 years old, nobody wants them and they aren't worth anything. c4c barely made a dent in the supply of used parts for those cars. There is no market for used parts for those cars. If there was, I'd be rich because I can get clean body/interior/engine parts for most of them all day long for pennies. Believe me, the market is tiny and shrinking every day.
I'm a little surprised that some of those older models qualified for c4c trade-ins. I thought that there were some pretty specific guidelines on age and mpg ratings of trade-ins. It was not my favorite thing that the gov. ever did w/ tax $$ but on the other hand, I don't think that it removed any valuable colector cars from the road. If anything, it eliminated the 6 worst 928s in existence. Same w/ the MB 500Es, can't give those things away. So how many 928 parts cars do you own, Sniper? You must be buying every one you can find, right? To save them from the crusher and all. And the OP must buy every MB 500E w/ high miles that he sees. Otherwise, you're just crying to hear yourself wimper.
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