Brett Favre...

[dd74]

Originally Posted by vwbobd

If you cant take the hits , dont play the game I always say!

Right! And I haven't heard Favre complaining. That says a lot right there...

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by vwbobd

they will be in it for about 5 mins :d

+1

[vwbobd]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Could you imagine a linebacker corps of Chuck Bednarik, Jack Ham, Jack Lambert and Ray Nitschke??

Hahaha, that would be awesome.

Ray Lewis is the best linebacker to ever play the game BAR NONE!! and I love Jack Lambert, he was my favorite growing up. LT was pretty great too, but Ray Lewis...........no contest.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by vwbobd

They will be in it for about 5 mins

LOL! I'm afraid you're correct.

[Shuie]

I blame the guy that called 'heads' for the coin toss in OT. WTH was he thinking? You ALWAYS call 'tails' on a coin toss.

[vwbobd]

Originally Posted by dd74

The parents I know out here frown on football. "Too violent," they say, or even "too macho." They're big on soccer, though I believe that arrives from the social-bonding-climbing aspect, but football here is almost a dirty word.

I coach pee wee and out here football rules, I even had some parents about to get into a fight because they wanted thier sons on my team......one of the moms really knew the fit and drive technique and would probably have been a good O lineman at the college level !!

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by vwbobd

Ray Lewis is the best linebacker to ever play the game BAR NONE!! and I love Jack Lambert, he was my favorite growing up. LT was pretty great too, but Ray Lewis...........no contest.

Ray is good, but i don't think he's the greatest to play the position.

I'd much rather have Singletary, or Butkis in the middle.

To me, LT is the greatest LB of all time. I saw dozens of his games in his prime. He was an absolutely game changing terrorizing force. His impact on an offense was far beyond that of Ray Lewis, IMO.

[vwbobd]

Originally Posted by Eric 951

I laughed out loud when he threw the pick at the end and kept thinking about how "thye gunslinger" blew another NFC title game with a last-second pick.

I really can't stand him and all the worship surrounding a guy that has only won 1 SB, and who's majority of recoords has come from simply playing for so long.

I have seen him sabotage a team's chances to win a big game as often as he ahs helped a team to win.

His "all about me" attitude made watching him lose all the more pleasurable and I was happy to see him get pasted a couple times.

You obviously know nothing about football!!! You have no idea what it takes to play AS A STARTER year after year. You make it sound as if anyone who decides to play for a long time would have record after record . I was very hightly ranked in the nation in my playing days and thought I was the next Montana, I found out differently after college , Especially when I decided to try "walking on" at a few NFL franchises. You have no idea how fast, strong and quick even the slowest and weakest NFl players are. Im just saying thatfor Favre to be on top o his game after so many years of being a STARTER is simply amazing. And sadly for most of the rest of the remaining NFL QB"S , he's still better than they will ever be and he is a 40 year old has been

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by dd74

Right! And I haven't heard Favre complaining. That says a lot right there...

You must've missed his after-game presser.

[dd74]

I think Ray Lewis is the best LB now... I like Urlacher w/ da Bears, but he's been out all season.

[Eric 951]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

The int was not the deciding play of the game. As ALL THREE announcers on NFL network said, it was not that bad of a play considering the circumstances, it didn't cost them the game.

Not gaining a single yard on 1st and 2nd down, then getting a 12 man in the huddle penalty...AND losing 3 fumbles is what lost them the game.

I don't know about the NFL announcers, and it certainly wasn't THE deciding factor in the Vikes losing, but as soon Favre threw that pick, Aikman(who in my opnion is a better QB than Favre) said "that is the first thing you learn NOT to do as a QB--run one direction, and throw the ball back across the middle--you can't see guys in coverage"

Favre was believing his own hype, that he could produce some miracle play when all he needed to do was scramble for 5 and slide to give the Vikes a FG opportunity.

I still find it incredibly funny--2 NFC Championships both ending with losses from picks he threw. ha ha ha

[vwbobd]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Ray is good, but i don't think he's the greatest to play the position.

I'd much rather have Singletary, or Butkis in the middle.

To me, LT is the greatest LB of all time. I saw dozens of his games in his prime. He was an absolutely game changing terrorizing force. His impact on an offense was far beyond that of Ray Lewis, IMO.

those guys you mentioned played when the average 40 time was over 5 seconds. Ray started in the NFL when there were way more 4.3's and 4.4's on the field. Big difference in the games. I love LT though.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

You must've missed his after-game presser.

Nah! I saw it. That wasn't complaining. That was acknowledgment that he got tossed around. Complaining would have been stating how he was hit unfairly or the officials weren't looking out for him, etc.

You know, complaining; the sort of stuff wussie basketball and baseball players do.

[Jim Richards]

His comment about dirty hits sounded like whining to me.

[Eric 951]

Originally Posted by vwbobd

You obviously know nothing about football!!! You have no idea what it takes to play AS A STARTER year after year. You make it sound as if anyone who decides to play for a long time would have record after record . I was very hightly ranked in the nation in my playing days and thought I was the next Montana, I found out differently after college , Especially when I decided to try "walking on" at a few NFL franchises. You have no idea how fast, strong and quick even the slowest and weakest NFl players are. Im just saying thatfor Favre to be on top o his game after so many years of being a STARTER is simply amazing. And sadly for most of the rest of the remaining NFL QB"S , he's still better than they will ever be and he is a 40 year old has been

Good for Favre--he was a starter all those years and gutted it out for the "ironman" consecutive start record way....to....go.

How many of those games should he have sat because he was too dinged up to be as effective a player as he should have been? and in starting and playing actually hurt his TEAMs' chances to win. So long as he got the records, who cares about the team?

Favre is a "me-first" jackass and always has been.

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

His comment about dirty hits sounded like whining to me.

I missed that part. I heard only clips of the post game. Funny! None of the networks ran "dirty hits." Wonder why?

[dd74]

Originally Posted by Eric 951

Favre is a "me-first" jackass and always has been.

yeah, and the interesting thing is the Vikings loved him. Thought he was better than sliced bread, etc.

[Tervuren]

I didn't get to see the whole game as I was flying back from a 12hr kart race in Cali, but I do remember thinking that the saints where being way to rough on an "old man" - and then I thought - if he was to old he wouldn't be out there, he wouldn't of been taped up and still played anyway. They would give it, and he would take it. They did do some dirty stuff though. When the tackling player picked his legs up in the air to slam his head/shoulders into the ground that was not cool.

[berettafan]

What blows my mind is that there are clearly so many people better suited to the QB role for Minn. than Farvre and several of them are right here in PPOT!

[lukeh]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

The int was not the deciding play of the game. As ALL THREE announcers on NFL network said, it was not that bad of a play considering the circumstances, it didn't cost them the game.

Not gaining a single yard on 1st and 2nd down, then getting a 12 man in the huddle penalty...AND losing 3 fumbles is what lost them the game.

Please explain the logic here. If he throws it out of bounce they have a shot at a game winning field goal. If he runs they have a better shot at a game winning field goal. If he throws it to the wide open receiver on the 20 they have an even better shot at the game winning field goal. So "considering those circumstances" why wasn't it that bad of a play that he chose to commit the cardinal sin of running one way and throwing back across the field. And if it wasn't "that bad of a play", what could he have done on that play that would have been worse than what he did?