NASCAR: no more carburetors...

[dd74]

Have you boys seen this story?

NASCAR shooting to implement fuel injection in 2011 - Sprint Cup Series | NASCAR Racing News - SceneDaily.com

[porsche4life]

Why not? Better HP and fuel efficiency....

[dd74]

Hope so. And don't forget Danica.

[ckissick]

I'm glad they didn't say the change was being implemented to combat global warming.

[legion]

Here's a dirty little secret:

NASCAR reached its peak in popularity in the early part of this decade. With the economy in a slump, ticket sales have plumetted. People just don't seem to have $160 to spend on 9 inches of aluminum bench with a bad view.

Last year at the races in Joliet we could sit ANYWHERE we wanted. The stands were half empty. This year, we didn't buy tickets.

NASCAR is trying to broaden its appeal. Part of that is at least using modern technology.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by legion

NASCAR is trying to broaden its appeal. Part of that is at least using modern technology.

Stop going around in a circle and stop punting other cars out of the way, that will broaden their appeal. Watched part of a race every few years and its always the same, drive in a circle and ram the other guy to get him out of the way.

This is racing? And we wonder why other countries feel American racing drivers are a joke. Prolly because they are for the most part...

[dd74]

I agree. More road circuits. And street circuits. L.A. could support a NASCAR street race. Hell, we already do the marathon that closes down half the city; why not a street race --- along Sunset Blvd preferably.

NASCAR's day is cooked. Gone are the days kids go to the races and buy $300 Dale Jr. replica jackets and stuff. Now they have to think outside the box.

In Canada, NASCAR races in the rain, with wipers and rain tires, and on road courses. It's great stuff.

[vwbobd]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Stop going around in a circle and stop punting other cars out of the way, that will broaden their appeal. Watched part of a race every few years and its always the same, drive in a circle and ram the other guy to get him out of the way.

This is racing? And we wonder why other countries feel American racing drivers are a joke. Prolly because they are for the most part...

Oh, they have made it a BIG point to let everyone know that the "rubbing" will be allowed again next season starting at Daytona. That is only to increase the accidents to draw more of a crowd.
I think the only real racing is dragging, fastest car usually wins. Not the one that can knock the others out of contention.
I think nadcar sucks , they seem to pick a certain driver and try like hell to make them successful. Didn't work when they tried to make earnhardt Jr a champion .

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by dd74

In Canada, NASCAR races in the rain, with wipers and rain tires, and on road courses. It's great stuff.

Bingo! Other types of racing do it in the rain and turn right AND left.

As well for me the accidents have to stop, or at least the ones that they do on purpose. Professional racing drivers do not run into each other IMHO...

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by dd74

I agree. More road circuits. And street circuits. L.A. could support a NASCAR street race. Hell, we already do the marathon that closes down half the city; why not a street race --- along Sunset Blvd preferably.


In Canada, NASCAR races in the rain, with wipers and rain tires, and on road courses. It's great stuff.

L.A. did have a NASCAR street race... around Exposition park... I was there.

Hmmm maybe have them go back to racing gutted stock cars with roll cages like back in the 50's and 60's

[Porschedr.]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Why not? Better HP and fuel efficiency....

A lot has to do with smaller teams being able to afford all that on all their cars. Also, cheating is a big reason. It's going to be hard to close all the looholes as they're still trying to with carbs.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Stop going around in a circle and stop punting other cars out of the way, that will broaden their appeal. Watched part of a race every few years and its always the same, drive in a circle and ram the other guy to get him out of the way.

This is racing? And we wonder why other countries feel American racing drivers are a joke. Prolly because they are for the most part...

have you read what the drivers that moved over from F1 have to say about racing NASCAR?

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by dd74

I agree. More road circuits. And street circuits. L.A. could support a NASCAR street race. Hell, we already do the marathon that closes down half the city; why not a street race --- along Sunset Blvd preferably.

NASCAR's day is cooked. Gone are the days kids go to the races and buy $300 Dale Jr. replica jackets and stuff. Now they have to think outside the box.

In Canada, NASCAR races in the rain, with wipers and rain tires, and on road courses. It's great stuff.

Road courses suck. They cannot get 10 people to go to a road course now.

Super speedways are much more interesting and fun to watch IMO.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by nynor

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have you read what the drivers that moved over from F1 have to say about racing NASCAR?

"It's a lot harder than i thought," i suspect.

[legion]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

"It's a lot harder than i thought," i suspect.

Yep. In F1 they are driving machines designed specifically for the task they are doing.

In NASCAR, they are driving machines descended from machines that were never intended for racing.

I will say that there is A LOT more engineering going on in NASCAR than most people understand. They have figured out how to get a pushrod V8 to rev up to 9,000 rpm and produce 900 hp. They have figured out how to implement a form of traction control through the ignition system. They used to tweak the bodies for aerodynamics (the templates used to just cover certain dimensions and they would play with the places between the templates) and have separate cars for short, long, and road courses. That all has been outlawed with the COTM.

[URY914]

The COTM was a mistake. It's a spec series now.

[sammyg2]

Lesse, if I FAILED at F1 and the best I could do was get a ride at nascar, and even then I wasn't winning, do you think I'd come out and say that it was easy and the other drivers weren't very good? No, I wouldn't.

Nascar races are won in the garage and in the pits, not on the track.

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by URY914

The COTM was a mistake. It's a spec series now.

Car of tomorrow jus' done broke nas car!

[onewhippedpuppy]

Fuel injection!!! I'd like to welcome NASCAR to the 1970s.

[m21sniper]

You mean the 1950s?