Dude, you're missing out on the KEY demographic group, there.

yea, i still slip. hard being human.

when i was 17, i was dropping off a set of SBC heads for machining. shop was super crowded, and it was my first visit. i took a seat. the door opened and this axe murderer looking dude came in. tats, Mexican gang member..bandana, tear drop tats, crispy white t-shirt, huge, mean looking..he went to this number thing and grabbed a number. i had a "doh!" expression, and got up to take a number also. he handed me his, and said, "here, you were here before me..". lessoned learned. i try not to judge folks by their appearance. mercedes benzo guy could have been driving the ******* bosses' car.

Here, Here! Good for you!
It costs nothing to be nice, even if only reasonably nice and if you don't mean it, it still costs nothing!

Was she hot?

typical dousche bag with a 2 year lease - not a car guy

The new ones? They are "just a car"...bought for image & status, not for enthusiast reasons. Of course, there are always exceptions to any rule...

Especially a "modern" 911 owner. They don't even know it's a Porsche, and then most don't know that over 3,000 were made with 6 cylinder engines and 911 suspension components. It was an amazing car in its day. Nope. NARP.

I pity the 924 owners, they recognize those...and are probably 10 times as harsh.

This always happens once a marque gets famous. I expect there was some of it even in 1968 when our old 911s were new, but the ownership was still very technical minded people by and large. Today, those types of people often own old cars, and some fraction hang out here. And technically minded has changed - there are not so many mechanical engineers and instead we have more software people - a hardware person today designs chips (by and large). Both factors reduce the pool of "car people."

A buyer of a new Porsche today is often not a "car person" but a "status person," like Paul said. There is a bright lining to the cloud tho - they will end their lease or trade in their owned car pretty soon, and the cheaper used late model sports car can then get down to a lower entry point. That's why I always say that Yuppies are an important part of the food chain...

This is not limited to Porsches. When I first bought a BMW (a 1971 2002) the only people who had one were car people and we all flashed out lights at each other. That changed as BMW became better known in the US. In fact, there is even some inverse law in economics for which BMW is a prime example. I forget the name of it, but the normal rule is that higher prices reduce unit sales. In the go-go 1980s BMWs increased greatly in price but unit sales also went thru the roof. The reason given is another example of the Yuppie Effect. People were buying BMWs as a status symbol, and the higher prices made the symbol more attractive.

it's weird....girls, age 18-early 30's generally don't give a crap about the car....it's the cougars and the little girls.

Guy probably thought that you came over to chat-up his wife and then got caught in an awkward situation, then tried to ask banal questions about the car to weasel out of it. (If in fact she was attractive). That has happened to me, (not with a car as a prop), I treat those guys the same way.

My first thought, though, was that perhaps he was having a really bad day. I never bother strangers unless there are some pretty obvious cues that it would not be unwelcome. That goes for men/women/kids/you-name-it. In a big city like L.A., there is a certain expectation of privacy in public that makes talking to strangers from car-to-car a dicey thing. People might very well mistake it for some type of aggression. I can say that if I tried to talk to a complete stranger who was minding his or her own business at a red light, the last thing on earth that they would assume is that I wanted to compliment their car or talk about it. Don't get me wrong-I've done it but it's a play-it-by-ear deal.

Just to clarify; I'm under no illusion that this dude owed me anything, (his car was a real nice 84 carrera coupe), but what really closed the deal on him was the fact that he never heard of the Pelican Tech forums. I could not believe it. BTW his wife seemed real nice. I wouldn't have bothered either of them but their car was very much like mine and I thought a friendly hello would cheer anybody up. Nuff said. BTW here's a pic or two of Haiti. I know there was a thread about this earlier and even though we initially felt a little uncomfortable going there, it was a scheduled stop and sailing right by or not going ashore at all would not have helped them. We had already given what we could to Red Cross and Doctors without borders, and watching the Ship unload forty or more palletts of food and supplies felt like the right thing to do. IMO



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Very few car people would agree with that assessment.

What isn't "Just a car," after all?

I don't care what his excuse is. If i go out of my way to be nice and am greeted by abject disdain, i will give you a reason to disdain me.

Once again i find myself happy that i don't live in that narcissistic cess pool of silicone, LA.

Here in Philly, most people are very friendly when you approach them about a car, or the dog they're walking, or whatever else.
The douche in the MB was far more the exception than the rule.

Philly is a toilet, but i would not trade Philly for LA in 10 million years.

The right thing to do would be if you all got off the ship, grabbed a shovel, and went to help. Or if the cruise ship flooded the deck with starving and weak Haitian women and children.

While you were frolicking in the water on the beach, could you smell the decaying corpses?

I mean seriously, "but they brought 40 pallets of food!"

Yeah, that the strong will take from the weak. If you wanted to help, you should have offered to help guard the convoy so that the thugs running rampant in the streets of Haiti didn't just steal that food too.

Bah, whatever. :(

friend bought a 997 turbo, I was looking it over, he flips me the keys walks inside his house, s##t, took it for a drive ... pretty nice & definitely a car guy but it was like no biggie, that would not happen with his 1993 turbo

So you don't think your 928 has more panache associated with it, then say a 1979 924?


2007 911's are a dime a dozen. It's a current production car (albeit a nice, expensive german one), but really, it's not that neat. AS a car guy, seeing your 928, or a mid 80's Carrera, or even a 60's era US muscle car would garner my attention more than a current run of the mill Porsche (unless, it was something like a GT3 or a Carrera GT....)

That's exactly my point. I love all cars, and can appreciate something about each one. However, an older car (being a car guy, remember) is much more appealing to me. Character, history, etc.

This was not Port au Prince, it was on the North coast where there was no damage, so there was no corpses in the water and no starving children at this location. What the ship did, I think, was still better than nothing, which probably is what a lot of people are doing.

Labadee perhaps?

Why do all the 911 owners always dis us 924 guys :confused:
Like they think they are better or something :p

hey! I'd totally take a 931 to play with! :)